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Re: Oliver Roberts : Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:40 pm  

Aboveusonlypie wrote:

Genuine question this - What's the big deal about signing or producing British players?

I mean at Wigan we produce more than most, but it doesn't give you any extra points when the game kicks off.

I never understand this attitude that signing local lads is best. I just like to see good players play for Wigan, and I don't really mind where they come from.

When Blake Green goes back to Aussie next year we will replace him with a Wigan trainee. All very laudable. But most Wigan fans would rather see a like for like replacement.

Why produce your own players?

I expect that it’s cheaper and easier to stay under the salary cap if you can bring your own through. Buying ready made first teamers is more costly as they’ll want higher salaries. A young lad coming through can be on an incentivised contract.

Also players that have come through the system ought to identify with the club more and show a bit more loyalty. You can’t buy that.

Obviously some clubs find it easier to produce quality young players than others. It depends on a lot of factors. If the club is successful then more kids will want to join. If the club pays well that also runs in their favour. Having a quality set up pays off too as does a clear pathway to the 1st team. It’s no coincidence that the more of these factors you have the better you’ll do.

A lot also depends on the number of amateur RL clubs nearby and the popularity of the sport. In places where the game is a lower profile the harder it will be to produce home grown players.

Even if you do produce decent British players there’s no guarantee you’ll hang onto them. There’s always a richer and/or more successful club around that can tempt a young lad, it’s a short career. Look at how many of our ex youngsters are at Huddersfield, Catalans, Wigan, South Sydney etc.

Re: Oliver Roberts : Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:09 pm  

on the subject of bringing on young players are we deluding ourselves , how many games did ,Johnson ,leeming ,conner play last season ?it seemed to me they were thrown in when we were short , rather than as part of a development programme . would not be surprised if their jloint total was less than a dozen

Re: Oliver Roberts : Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:01 pm  

camraman wrote:

on the subject of bringing on young players are we deluding ourselves , how many games did ,Johnson ,leeming ,conner play last season ?it seemed to me they were thrown in when we were short , rather than as part of a development programme . would not be surprised if their jloint total was less than a dozen

if they are good enough they will become regulars like cudjoe, lawrence, crabtree, wardle, mcgillvary.

id say connor will become a regular if he continues his progress.

Re: Oliver Roberts : Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:51 pm  

deslawson wrote:

Our current squad. Cockayne dixon,walker,carlile,goulding,hopefully myler and lunt all british, welham,salter horne,cox,green,ollett,esslemont,guzdek,hallett,robinson all currently in our squad,all played s/l, marsh and holker in the squad and all came through our system,richard horne,john wilkin also josh hodgson,scott taylor,and dont forget we were the last club to join s/l in 2007 and IMO we have done ok.
Now about your lack of support bearing in mind ken davey virtually gives you a season pass and a lot of your players came through your system,which you say is what is wanted,why the lack of support for a reasonably successful side ?

well myler isnt joining you, can take him off your list.

the hull papers just seem to talk alot of rubbish, suppose they have to fill the spaces somehow

Re: Oliver Roberts : Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:11 pm  

Rumours generally in rl have some part truth, nowt ever really happens signing wise without people already having some inclination. However things can be taken out of context interest soon becomes a four year deal. Rumours can be fun and give us something to talk about but until clubs come out with facts then they are just that rumours and speculation.

Re: Oliver Roberts : Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:14 pm  

Oh and as for why we do and should prefer local lads over imports because that is what will get us credit. You go to watch the top football sides littered with players from all over the world, I would rather see a local lad , yorkshire lad, English lad or British lad before a southern hemisphere import!