If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
My, we are a bit touchy. Not a very trustworthy source your contact if he is in fact employed by the club and discloses true information not officially released or alternatively untrue information. Either way maybe if you have the interest of the club at heart you should confidentially have a word with the CEO and let him know that we have a mole in the camp. Your source is obviously not the sort of staff we should be employing.
Not touchy at all, but with regards to moles in the camp, if you think that is something new or exclusive to Rovers then you must have a mole in the head, you can go back 20 /30 years or more and you will find that there has always been leaks or little snippets of information from various people involved at the club, good God man have you no ears or were they simply pointing in the wrong direction all the time?. By the way,(rightly or wrongly) I think you will also find that it(leaks) fact does happen at most sporting clubs, professional or otherwise.
Looking back, no one was worse or better (depending which way you look at it) than former director, Ben Greaves, god bless his soul). He would tell you in the pub or anywhere else for that matter, that Rovers were going to sign this or that player, or were talking to someone with a view to signing them, he would tap his nose and say ....don't tell anyone else or quote me but this is who we might be signing or going to attempt to sign. You would walk away, cock a hoop, thinking you were the only person that was in possession of such information only to discover a few days later that he had told everyone else barring the deceased and the undertaker.
So Keith the red, I really couldn't give a hoot whether you think the source of the information is trustworthy or not but I can tell you that the person is most definitely associated with the club and I'm only stating what I was told, if you know different and you would like to state otherwise then that's fine, lets hear it. If in fact the info does turn out to be wrong then perhaps you would like to take it upon yourself to voice your concern with the person in question, like I say, I'm only relaying what I was told, I'm not in the business of making things up just for a bit of attention .
However, while race and ethnicity are considered to be separate phenomena in contemporary social science, the two terms have a long history of equivalence in popular usage and older social science literature. Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial. According to the United Nations convention, there is no distinction between the terms racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination, and superiority based on racial differentiation is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous, and that there is no justification for racial discrimination, in theory or in practice, anywhere
An ethnicity, or ethnic group, is a socially-defined category of people who identify with each other based on common ancestral, social, cultural, or national experience.
The French are an ethnic group and stereotyping them with the perceived derogatory term "Frog" is today considered by society to be racist. Not all people may see it like that but they are not changing with the times.
However, while race and ethnicity are considered to be separate phenomena in contemporary social science, the two terms have a long history of equivalence in popular usage and older social science literature. Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial. According to the United Nations convention, there is no distinction between the terms racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination, and superiority based on racial differentiation is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous, and that there is no justification for racial discrimination, in theory or in practice, anywhere
An ethnicity, or ethnic group, is a socially-defined category of people who identify with each other based on common ancestral, social, cultural, or national experience.
The French are an ethnic group and stereotyping them with the perceived derogatory term "Frog" is today considered by society to be racist. Not all people may see it like that but they are not changing with the times.
That's 10 minutes of your life you'll never get back.
However, while race and ethnicity are considered to be separate phenomena in contemporary social science, the two terms have a long history of equivalence in popular usage and older social science literature. Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial. According to the United Nations convention, there is no distinction between the terms racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination, and superiority based on racial differentiation is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous, and that there is no justification for racial discrimination, in theory or in practice, anywhere
An ethnicity, or ethnic group, is a socially-defined category of people who identify with each other based on common ancestral, social, cultural, or national experience.
The French are an ethnic group and stereotyping them with the perceived derogatory term "Frog" is today considered by society to be racist. Not all people may see it like that but they are not changing with the times.
However, while race and ethnicity are considered to be separate phenomena in contemporary social science, the two terms have a long history of equivalence in popular usage and older social science literature. Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial. According to the United Nations convention, there is no distinction between the terms racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination, and superiority based on racial differentiation is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous, and that there is no justification for racial discrimination, in theory or in practice, anywhere
An ethnicity, or ethnic group, is a socially-defined category of people who identify with each other based on common ancestral, social, cultural, or national experience.
The French are an ethnic group and stereotyping them with the perceived derogatory term "Frog" is today considered by society to be racist. Not all people may see it like that but they are not changing with the times.
Did you really have to wiki racism to find an argument to suit your agenda? I pity you.
Keiththered wrote:
True.
However, while race and ethnicity are considered to be separate phenomena in contemporary social science, the two terms have a long history of equivalence in popular usage and older social science literature. Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial. According to the United Nations convention, there is no distinction between the terms racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination, and superiority based on racial differentiation is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous, and that there is no justification for racial discrimination, in theory or in practice, anywhere
An ethnicity, or ethnic group, is a socially-defined category of people who identify with each other based on common ancestral, social, cultural, or national experience.
The French are an ethnic group and stereotyping them with the perceived derogatory term "Frog" is today considered by society to be racist. Not all people may see it like that but they are not changing with the times.
Not touchy at all, but with regards to moles in the camp, if you think that is something new or exclusive to Rovers then you must have a mole in the head, you can go back 20 /30 years or more and you will find that there has always been leaks or little snippets of information from various people involved at the club, good God man have you no ears or were they simply pointing in the wrong direction all the time?. By the way,(rightly or wrongly) I think you will also find that it(leaks) fact does happen at most sporting clubs, professional or otherwise.
Looking back, no one was worse or better (depending which way you look at it) than former director, Ben Greaves, god bless his soul). He would tell you in the pub or anywhere else for that matter, that Rovers were going to sign this or that player, or were talking to someone with a view to signing them, he would tap his nose and say ....don't tell anyone else or quote me but this is who we might be signing or going to attempt to sign. You would walk away, cock a hoop, thinking you were the only person that was in possession of such information only to discover a few days later that he had told everyone else barring the deceased and the undertaker.
So Keith the red, I really couldn't give a hoot whether you think the source of the information is trustworthy or not but I can tell you that the person is most definitely associated with the club and I'm only stating what I was told, if you know different and you would like to state otherwise then that's fine, lets hear it. If in fact the info does turn out to be wrong then perhaps you would like to take it upon yourself to voice your concern with the person in question, like I say, I'm only relaying what I was told, I'm not in the business of making things up just for a bit of attention .
what you are saying is true years ago about 30 yrs back my wife was a cleaner who had to clean the offices at the old craven park and she used to come home and tell me all the gossip and when I asked how she found stuff out she said ben greaves told her or their was paper work on the desks I said you are joking she said come have a look on Saturday morning on your day of so of I went 6am Saturday and she was right and ben came in at about 730 am and told me about David bishop who we signed that week