Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:09 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

It can come in many forms but pointing to something like the Turin Shroud is certainly not evidence that it once contained Jesus. All it is, is evidence of a piece of old cloth with an unusual stain on it, that if you were to squint in a strange way, you might "see" an image that resembles an arcane representation of what someone thought Christ may have looked like.

maybe he's referring to the episode of Only Fools and Horses where the statue cries, was a miracle!

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:28 pm  

Just because kirkstaller (in common with a lot of other people) has his belief, that doesn't necessarily mean he is brainwashed.
He could just as easily be deluded, irrational, blinkered, illogical, needy or just plain wrong ... all without having been brainwashed.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:25 pm  

well someone appears to have a sense of humour. I've just been informed that my latest follower on twitter is:


Jews for Jesus

should be fun

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:36 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

well someone appears to have a sense of humour. I've just been informed that my latest follower on twitter is:


Jews for Jesus

should be fun

Some years ago, I had a legacy from an elderly great aunt in Plymouth. The legacies, before the estate was shared out, included one to Bibles for Israel.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:36 pm  

kirkstaller wrote:

Are you saying evidence only comes in the forms mentioned above?

Go on, then, just post ONE piece of your "ample evidence", to be going on with. Then we can have some fun.

Of course, you can't, so will instead either retort with some pathetic rhetorical device, or more probably as usual pretend that I have not asked you anything, in the adult equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears, or hiding under the bed.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:35 pm  

The Turin Shroud I can live with, it has a stain that might look like a man, or not, and because it might look like a man doesn't mean that its the same man known from the bible as Jesus, he could have been a soft fat black man for all we know.

Anyway...

The Turin Shroud aside, when you see a Jesus face on a slice of toast - what does that mean, and why does he do things like that - to fook with the minds of the gullible ?

I bet he has a right laugh some days.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:22 pm  

McLaren_Field wrote:

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The Turin Shroud aside, when you see a Jesus face on a slice of toast - what does that mean, and why does he do things like that -...

It's a signal to kirkstaller to put the kettle on.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:16 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

It's a signal to kirkstaller to put the kettle on.

still not answering your questions I notice, he's nearly as fickle as his god about making appearances.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:14 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

kirkstaller wrote:

Are you saying evidence only comes in the forms mentioned above?

Go on, then, just post ONE piece of your "ample evidence", to be going on with. Then we can have some fun.

Of course, you can't, so will instead either retort with some pathetic rhetorical device, or more probably as usual pretend that I have not asked you anything, in the adult equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears, or hiding under the bed.

I'm sure he'll be along presently with a link to 'Answers In Genesis', or summat.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:43 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Go on, then, just post ONE piece of your "ample evidence", to be going on with. Then we can have some fun.

Of course, you can't, so will instead either retort with some pathetic rhetorical device, or more probably as usual pretend that I have not asked you anything, in the adult equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears, or hiding under the bed.

You were the one who scuttled off last time.

As for evidence, by the far most convincing is the daily spiritual relationship I have with Jesus. Second is the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth. Third, the creation which surrounds us.