Re: Will there be changes on Saturday?. : Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:24 pm  

One big change for the next game is the referee. The "appointments committee" (i.e. mainly aussies crapping themselves about the possibility of their team being knocked out) have opted for an aussie referee for the England/Australia game. The Kiwis have a NZ referee for their game against Samoa. So that doesn't make the international game look stupid does it? Full details here: http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/oct/28/england-australia-four-nations-referee

One big change for the next game is the referee. The "appointments committee" (i.e. mainly aussies crapping themselves about the possibility of their team being knocked out) have opted for an aussie referee for the England/Australia game. The Kiwis have a NZ referee for their game against Samoa. So that doesn't make the international game look stupid does it? Full details here: http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/oct/28/england-australia-four-nations-referee

Re: Will there be changes on Saturday?. : Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:04 pm  

phibes wrote: One big change for the next game is the referee. The "appointments committee" (i.e. mainly aussies crapping themselves about the possibility of their team being knocked out) have opted for an aussie referee for the England/Australia game. The Kiwis have a NZ referee for their game against Samoa. So that doesn't make the international game look stupid does it? Full details here: http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/oct/28/england-australia-four-nations-referee They really are a despicable bunch are the Ockers. Win at all costs, even if it is to the detriment of the entire international game... I hope we absolutely murder them.

phibes wrote: One big change for the next game is the referee. The "appointments committee" (i.e. mainly aussies crapping themselves about the possibility of their team being knocked out) have opted for an aussie referee for the England/Australia game. The Kiwis have a NZ referee for their game against Samoa. So that doesn't make the international game look stupid does it? Full details here: http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/oct/28/england-australia-four-nations-referee They really are a despicable bunch are the Ockers. Win at all costs, even if it is to the detriment of the entire international game... I hope we absolutely murder them.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: Will there be changes on Saturday?. : Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:28 pm  

England should be all over this to the extent it would need attempted murder before he gaves Aus a penalty. We should be questioning their motives and say we are going to be analysing the refs performance (who has been put in a difficult position etc).

If they want to play dirty so should be.

Re: Will there be changes on Saturday?. : Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:51 pm  

McNamara will come out and back the appointment saying how he's reffed well in the NRL this year. I'd bet my last penny that he won't kick up a fuss, he's too much of a yes man.

Win or lose on Sunday and any further games after that I think McNamara's time should be up after this comp. He's put some good practices in place and served his purpose IMO. The side is now ready for a fresh coaching approach to match it's young players potential. Shaun Wane would be perfect for the job or possibly Daryl Powell. Lads run through brick walls for the pair of them and play well structured, aggressive rugby league.

Re: Will there be changes on Saturday?. : Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:41 pm  

Apparently there was a debate about the referees for four hours before England were outvoted according to Jon Sharp. http://www.sportinglife.com/rugby-league/news/article/480/9539091/four-nations-england-outvoted-over-australian-referee In the end, they went with the philosophy of the "best man for the job" instead of neutral refs - which makes no sense because Bentham did nothing wrong last weekend and if the NZ ref (Peranara) is good enough to officiate when the Kiwis play Samoa, why isn't he good enough to ref our game?

Apparently there was a debate about the referees for four hours before England were outvoted according to Jon Sharp. http://www.sportinglife.com/rugby-league/news/article/480/9539091/four-nations-england-outvoted-over-australian-referee In the end, they went with the philosophy of the "best man for the job" instead of neutral refs - which makes no sense because Bentham did nothing wrong last weekend and if the NZ ref (Peranara) is good enough to officiate when the Kiwis play Samoa, why isn't he good enough to ref our game?

Re: Will there be changes on Saturday?. : Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:11 am  

This has been going on for decades.
Until we have neutral referees we won't have true International Rugby League.
Time for Nigel Wood to show some Authority and end this ludicrous nonsense.

Re: Will there be changes on Saturday?. : Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:11 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

McNamara will come out and back the appointment saying how he's reffed well in the NRL this year. I'd bet my last penny that he won't kick up a fuss, he's too much of a yes man.

Win or lose on Sunday and any further games after that I think McNamara's time should be up after this comp. He's put some good practices in place and served his purpose IMO. The side is now ready for a fresh coaching approach to match it's young players potential. Shaun Wane would be perfect for the job or possibly Daryl Powell. Lads run through brick walls for the pair of them and play well structured, aggressive rugby league.

I fully agree on McNamara (he should really have been sacked between the Italy defeat and the World Cup last year in my opinion).

Without wishing to revisit old ground, I think Ben Flower has probably ruled Shaun Wane out of the running to be his replacement though. The RFL won't want to be exposed in the media as appointing a man who appears to advocate violent play from his players as the national coach.

Re: Will there be changes on Saturday?. : Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:12 pm  

EHW wrote:

I fully agree on McNamara (he should really have been sacked between the Italy defeat and the World Cup last year in my opinion).

Without wishing to revisit old ground, I think Ben Flower has probably ruled Shaun Wane out of the running to be his replacement though. The RFL won't want to be exposed in the media as appointing a man who appears to advocate violent play from his players as the national coach.

That's right because Shaun Wane told Ben Flower to go out and punch Hohaia twice in the face after 2 minutes of the most important game of the season. Get a grip and stop making it out to be someone else fault apart from the aggressor (Flower).

Maybe Wane is what England need a coach who can motivate and demands results on the field instead a guy who is at best a water carrier for Sydney Roosters.

Re: Will there be changes on Saturday?. : Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:03 pm  

EHW wrote:

I fully agree on McNamara (he should really have been sacked between the Italy defeat and the World Cup last year in my opinion).

Without wishing to revisit old ground, I think Ben Flower has probably ruled Shaun Wane out of the running to be his replacement though. The RFL won't want to be exposed in the media as appointing a man who appears to advocate violent play from his players as the national coach.

Re: Will there be changes on Saturday?. : Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:29 pm  

EHW wrote:

I fully agree on McNamara (he should really have been sacked between the Italy defeat and the World Cup last year in my opinion).

Without wishing to revisit old ground, I think Ben Flower has probably ruled Shaun Wane out of the running to be his replacement though. The RFL won't want to be exposed in the media as appointing a man who appears to advocate violent play from his players as the national coach.

I hope so. He's got a job to do at Wigan first.