Re: England Squad : Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:02 am  

o'laughlin is a really good player, but as mentioned above, never done it at international level and not had the best season with injuries etc if im correct in saying.
why not give westy ago. 'lesser' opposition good way to bring into the international team.

Re: England Squad : Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:08 am  

ditchley16 wrote:

o Laughlin is overated,a poor mans paul sculthorpe.

he's not overrated, sometimes i despair at some of the comments about non FC players on here. he is an excellent player with a proper rugby brain - something that a lot of modern players lack. the problem with him is as others have said, is that he is nearly always carrying injuries and has to be nursed through seasons. a fit o'loughlin would be an asset to any side. good as westerman is, he's not yet in this class

well done to hodgson as well as westerman, he's deserved his chance too

Re: England Squad : Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:03 pm  

the artist wrote:

he's not overrated, sometimes i despair at some of the comments about non FC players on here. he is an excellent player with a proper rugby brain - something that a lot of modern players lack. the problem with him is as others have said, is that he is nearly always carrying injuries and has to be nursed through seasons. a fit o'loughlin would be an asset to any side. good as westerman is, he's not yet in this class

well done to hodgson as well as westerman, he's deserved his chance too

Can't argue with that. reckon this might actually be O loughlins last tour.

Re: England Squad : Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:06 pm  

O'Loughlin's a cheap-shot merchant, head-high, grapples, you name it. A decent player but niggly and always will be. Plus, his body doesn't really seem cut out for it - especially against big, South Sea Islanders.

Good luck to Westy, he's really turned his career around and deserves that shirt.

Re: England Squad : Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:07 pm  

Hessle Roader wrote:

Great to see Joe Westerman starting for England. Well deserved.

Hull FC captain, Joe Westerman, according to Look North. Mentioned 3 or 4 times.

Game live on bbc2 @ 06:30 Saturday morning.

Re: England Squad : Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:54 pm  

Our second row looks weak to me

Re: England Squad : Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:34 pm  

bonaire wrote:

Our second row looks weak to me

it should be enough to see off samoa - might need to strengthen for the next two games - farrell is fine - good defensive player which we will need against NZ and Aus. get whitehead and o'loughlin back in and it won't look too bad - westerman could still get a bench spot if o'loughlin comes back - in case he breaks down mid game

Re: England Squad : Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:07 pm  

Good on him, a well deserved international cap.

Re: England Squad : Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:53 pm  

hull smallears wrote:

Can't argue with that. reckon this might actually be O loughlins last tour.

Considering the time between tours, he'll probably be in his 50's come the next one.

Re: England Squad : Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:37 pm  

Jesus!! Are some on here really trying to say Westerman is better than O'Loughlin?