Re: England vs Samoa: do or dire! : Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:57 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

People don't realize that if it hadn't been for an incident at a Brisbane nightclub, Reni Maitua would have been playing for Samoa (at either no. 6 or no. 13) and the task England would have faced would have been much more difficult.

And if Sam Burgess hadn't gone to RU and/or broken his cheekbone he would have played and the task Samoa would have faced would have been much more difficult.

If Australia hadn't had so many injuries and withdrawals they would have had the strongest side by far and the task England/Samoa/NZ would have faced would have been much more difficult

If, if, if.

Blah blah blah

Re: England vs Samoa: do or dire! : Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:29 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

People don't realize that if it hadn't been for an incident at a Brisbane nightclub, Reni Maitua would have been playing for Samoa (at either no. 6 or no. 13) and the task England would have faced would have been much more difficult.

he's even worse than Ben Roberts

Re: England vs Samoa: do or dire! : Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:29 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

Maitua is average at best. Widdop is a far superior 6.

You may be right.

Re: England vs Samoa: do or dire! : Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:46 pm  

Maitua is not good at 6, he is a bit part player at best. His best years were as a back tower 10 years ago but the game has evolved since then.

He was 4th choice half back at his club at best which says it all.

Re: England vs Samoa: do or dire! : Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:09 pm  

Interesting when reading all the previews from Australia that they fail even once to mention Chris Hill. Surprising also given that the only real chance to see him up against the NRLs best was for England against Australia in last years World Cup. During that game he constantly tore through the Ausie pack which contained all forwards that the Ausies are now bemoaning for being absent, Gallen etc

Hill is as big as the Burgess boys and is arguably better than both of them, definitely Tom and at least on a par with George.

Re: England vs Samoa: do or dire! : Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:51 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

Interesting when reading all the previews from Australia that they fail even once to mention Chris Hill. Surprising also given that the only real chance to see him up against the NRLs best was for England against Australia in last years World Cup. During that game he constantly tore through the Ausie pack which contained all forwards that the Ausies are now bemoaning for being absent, Gallen etc

Hill is as big as the Burgess boys and is arguably better than both of them, definitely Tom and at least on a par with George.

I would keep those thoughts to yourself, if I was you. Otherwise we'll soon find Chris Hill playing in the NRL.

Re: England vs Samoa: do or dire! : Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:25 am  

We'll win, but lose the other 2 games.....predictable I guess.

Re: England vs Samoa: do or dire! : Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:22 am  

If England can beat Samoa by at least 20 points ---despite Samoa having a much superior 3/4 line -- then England has a good chance to beat a rusty Australia the following week.

Only a magical performance by Gregory Inglis can lift the unbalanced pack of Australian forwards to match the English pack --- assuming that Shaun O'Loughlin plays. Otherwise, if England beat Samoa by at least 20, they will next beat Australia by at least 8 points.

One cannot underestimate the psychological effects on Australia of a humiliating defeat to New Zealand. Australian players will lose their sense of entitlement, which comes from having the wizardry of Johnathan Thurston at their disposal.

Re: England vs Samoa: do or dire! : Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:32 am  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

If England can beat Samoa by at least 20 points ---despite Samoa having a much superior 3/4 line -- then England has a good chance to beat a rusty Australia the following week.

Only a magical performance by Gregory Inglis can lift the unbalanced pack of Australian forwards to match the English pack --- assuming that Shaun O'Loughlin plays. Otherwise, if England beat Samoa by at least 20, they will next beat Australia by at least 8 points.

One cannot underestimate the psychological effects on Australia of a humiliating defeat to New Zealand. Australian players will lose their sense of entitlement, which comes from having the wizardry of Johnathan Thurston at their disposal.

You really do spin some rubbish.
Most of the stuff you peddle does not make any sense.
Get a life.

Re: England vs Samoa: do or dire! : Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:50 am  

Buggo wrote:

You really do spin some rubbish.
Most of the stuff you peddle does not make any sense.
Get a life.

Just ignore the extremely poor WUM, for fcks sake.