4 Nations Squads : Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:26 am  

All the squads have now been announced, as follows:

AUSTRALIA:
Greg Bird (Gold Coast Titans)
Daly Cherry-Evans (Manly Warringah Sea Eagles)
Boyd Cordner (Sydney Roosters)
Cooper Cronk (Melbourne Storm)
Robbie Farah (Wests Tigers)
Aidan Guerra (Sydney Roosters)
Ryan Hoffman (Melbourne Storm)
Ben Hunt Brisbane (Broncos)
Greg Inglis (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
Josh Jackson (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs)
Michael Jennings (Sydney Roosters)
Alex Johnston (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
David Klemmer (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs)
Josh Mansour (Penrith Panthers)
Sione Mata’utia (Newcastle Knights)
Matt Moylan (Penrith Panthers)
Josh Papalii (Canberra Raiders)
Corey Parker (Brisbane Broncos)
Beau Scott (Newcastle Knights)
Cameron Smith (Melbourne Storm)
Sam Thaiday (Brisbane Broncos)
Daniel Tupou (Sydney Roosters)
Dylan Walker (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
Aaron Woods (Wests Tigers)

ENGLAND:
George Burgess (South Sydney)
Tom Burgess (South Sydney)
Joe Burgess (Wigan)
Josh Charnley (Wigan)
Daryl Clark (Castleford)
Mike Cooper (St George Illawarra)
Liam Farrell (Wigan)
Brett Ferres (Huddersfield)
James Graham (Canterbury Bulldogs)
Ryan Hall (Leeds)
Zak Hardaker (Leeds)
Chris Hill (Warrington)
Josh Hodgson (Hull KR)
Sean O'Loughlin (Wigan, capt)
Stefan Ratchford (Warrington)
Dan Sarginson (Wigan)
Michael Shenton (Castleford)
Matty Smith (Wigan)
Joel Tomkins (Wigan)
Sam Tomkins (New Zealand Warriors)
Kallum Watkins (Leeds)
Joe Westerman (Hull)
Elliott Whitehead (Catalan Dragons)
Gareth Widdop (St George Illawarra)

NEW ZEALAND:
Gerard Beale (St George Illawarra Dragons)
Adam Blair (Wests Tigers)
Jesse Bromwich (Melbourne Storm)
Lewis Brown (Penrith Panthers)
Greg Eastwood (Canterbury Bulldogs)
Sosaia Feki (Cronulla Sharks)
Kieran Foran (Manly Sea Eagles)
Tohu Harris (Melbourne Storm)
Siliva Havili (Vodafone Warriors)
Peta Hiku (Manly Sea Eagles)
Shaun Johnson (Vodafone Warriors)
Shaun Kenny-Dowall (Sydney Roosters)
Thomas Leuluai (Vodafone Warriors)
Issac Luke (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
Simon Mannering (Vodafone Warriors)
Suaia Matagi (Vodafone Warriors)
Sam Moa (Sydney Roosters)
Jason Nightingale (St George Illawarra Dragons)
Kevin Proctor (Melbourne Storm)
Jason Taumalolo (North Queensland Cowboys)
Martin Taupau (Wests Tigers)
Manu Vatuvei (Vodafone Warriors)
Dallin Watene-Zelezniak (Penrith Panthers)
Dean Whare (Penrith Panthers)

SAMOA:
Leeson Ah Mau (St George Illawarra Dragons)
David Fa'alogo (Newcastle Knights)
Pita Godinet (Wakefield Trinity Wildcats)
Tim Lafai (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs)
Joey Leilua (Newcastle Knights)
Isaac Liu (Sydney Roosters)
Dunamis Lui (Manly Sea Eagles)
Penani Manumalealii (Cronulla Sharks)
Mose Masoe (St Helens)
Suaia Matagi (New Zealand Warriors)
Peter Mata’utia (St George Illawarra Dragons)
Reni Maitua (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs)
Tautau Moga (North Queensland Cowboys)
Dominique Peyroux (New Zealand Warriors)
Frank Pritchard (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs)
Ben Roberts (Melbourne Storm)
Tim Simona (Wests Tigers)
Michael Sio (New Zealand Warriors)
Kyle Stanley (St George Illawarra Dragons)
Sauaso Sue (Wests Tigers)
Sam Tagataese (Cronulla Sharks)
Daniel Vidot (Brisbane Broncos)
Antonio Winterstein (North Queensland Cowboys)

Re: 4 Nations Squads : Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:49 am  

What line up are Aus and NZ likely to pick? I'm struggling to predict the Aus team line-up!

Re: 4 Nations Squads : Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:13 am  

It's the weakest squad I've seen from Australia for a few years, lots of players out, but some of the yougsters brought in are brilliant.

Now Hayne is ruled out, Aus could line up against us/NZ something like:

Inglis
Tupou
Jennings
Walker
Johnstone/Mansour
Cherry-Evans
Cronk
Parker
Smith
Woods
Thaiday
Cordner/Scott
Bird

Farah + three forwards from Klemmer/Jackson/Papalii/Hoffman/Cordner/Scott/Guerra

Re: 4 Nations Squads : Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:35 am  

As it's a year of monkeys being removed from backs (Saints with the GF, Leeds with the CC, Souths with their first premiership since '71), could this finally be England's year? We've seen some weakened Australia sides over the years, but I can't remember one as depleted as this, and we now have a healthy proportion of our side doing well in the NRL. It's a great opportunity (although we can't forget NZ, of course).

Re: 4 Nations Squads : Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:44 am  

There's no such thing as a weak Austrailia RL team. Most of the players in their squad would still get into the England team so only a fool would write them off, but it has a now or never feeling to it does this comp for England now.

Re: 4 Nations Squads : Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:46 am  

Shame we're missing Roby and Burgess. On paper I think we have a brilliant squad. Just don't think we'll make the final with McNamara in charge unfortunately

Re: 4 Nations Squads : Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:49 am  

Dux wrote:

As it's a year of monkeys being removed from backs (Saints with the GF, Leeds with the CC, Souths with their first premiership since '71), could this finally be England's year? We've seen some weakened Australia sides over the years, but I can't remember one as depleted as this, and we now have a healthy proportion of our side doing well in the NRL. It's a great opportunity (although we can't forget NZ, of course).

It does look weaker on paper but don't be fooled. Any side containing the talents of Cam Smith, Inglis and Cronk is a huge threat. Our Front row options look far better, however that is reversed when looking at the respective back rows.I think we can match them in the three quarter line for once too.

We can certainly compete and if we had the services of Sam Burgess and Roby i would be confident of a win. It NZ's for the taking though imo.

Re: 4 Nations Squads : Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:52 am  

Bull Mania wrote:

Shame we're missing Roby and Burgess. On paper I think we have a brilliant squad. Just don't think we'll make the final with McNamara in charge unfortunately

We'll see. For the first time in a very long time we have a coach working week in week out in the NRL, he will have been able to do more analysis on the opposition and actually know some of the players personally. That can only be a good thing IMO.

Re: 4 Nations Squads : Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:13 am  

To clarify , I wasn't (and I don't think Dux was either) calling that squad weak by any means. But comparing it to the world cup squad with Hayne, Slater, Boyd, Thurston, Scott, Tamou, Morris etc all out - we have a huge opportunity.

Re: 4 Nations Squads : Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:21 pm  

Biff Tannen wrote:

It does look weaker on paper but don't be fooled. Any side containing the talents of Cam Smith, Inglis and Cronk is a huge threat. Our Front row options look far better, however that is reversed when looking at the respective back rows.I think we can match them in the three quarter line for once too.

We can certainly compete and if we had the services of Sam Burgess and Roby i would be confident of a win. It NZ's for the taking though imo.

Don't get me wrong - they're weakened but I'm not suggesting they're by any means weak. But I can't help thinking this is a fantastic opportunity for England. As you say, though, NZ would have to be negotiated as well.