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gutterfax wrote:
we will never know because apparently after a hard season of cup, league and play-off games,


Its not just one season though is it. Some of the French players haven't had a proper off season for years, some since they came out of the elite in 2006. Because most of the pro players are in one club, it puts a strain on those players and the club.


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and semi-professional 2nd generation Irishmen.


Nice backtrack
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France has a rich history of RL, Ireland has none.


Quality, we should walk the 4N we have more history of RL than Aus and NZ. Tell them not to bother.
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Forgive me.......I could have sworn that French RL purchased the RLWC trophy and that French RL has a rich history in the game. I should have realised that they of course need maybe more than the 60+'year head start on London to get 3 players in the SL grand final.
As for the Toulouse for SL debate.......bollox. Stop cramming the dragons with imports before you ask for another team......


Is someone a little bitter that they're not in superleague anymore? That they're an expansion club that has failed massively? Unfortunately the Catalans play to the same rules as everyone else regarding imports, so the same number of imports that fill the catalans squad also fill the St. Helens, Wigan and Warrington squads . Perhaps that's why England failed just one stage further than France at the RLWC.

I'll give you the 60 year head start, we'll ignore that the first professional club in France was the Dragons, a whole 26 years after professional rugby league went to london. The roots you've set down in 34 years and you're only just getting players into grand finals? It's also 10 years after superleague went to full time professionalism. That is a huge gap that has seen France playing catch up ever since.

Catalans have done amazingly well since their inception (let's ignore the 2 years of Kevin Walters' reign where only 2 French players made their debut-top coach he was) the likes of Pelissier, Escare, Simon, Bousquet, Larroyer, Garcia, Baile, Vaccari, Pala, Margalet, Bentley's, Barthau, Maria, Baitieri have all made their debut since the Walters reign and gone on to play at international level.

The biggest fear now that 'every minute of every game matters' is that less players will come through and make their debuts, that is why the catalans have invested €750,000 into a new academy system so the new Escare and Pelissier can come through.
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they can still qualify though for the next 4 nations, the big one will be Scotland v France, they will prob bring in a few players that were missing for the Ireland defeat.
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I know it has probably been said a million times on this forum already, but the only way to really make the french international team competitive, is if someone pumps a massive amount of money into the french league to make it a full time professional competition. Whilst I like the Catalans and do think they have a number of good homegrown players, 1 professional team is not a big enough player pool to sustain an international side who can compete at the highest level and they should be competing in France against other full time professional sides.

They could even then have some sort of Heineken Cup style competition every year.
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NRL expansion? Sometime soon, maybe......

Disagree, nz are competitive without a national pro league. Reality is, like nz, you need around 80-100 players playing in NRL or SL. Getting more French players in the Dragons squad plus bringing in another French club to SL plus more SL and NRL clubs scouting the best 16-20 year old French jnrs will eventually make them competitive. Having 12-15 French players in NRL or so regularly playing is t going to make much difference to the French INternational performances.
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