Re: Super League - Sky Viewing Figures : Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:10 pm  

William Eve wrote:

It's up to you to back up your assertions with evidence, and it appears you have none.

Sky viewing figures for SL exhibit a downward trend since 2009 (the exception being 2012).

So I'll ask you again... how does your earlier link to some partial data concerning the period 1998 to 2009 back up your assertion?

Err, since when have I had to prove anything to you????

The link was the first link I plucked from Google for the BARB site, as I said "knock yerself out" your the one who wants the minutae, not me.

If you could just fathom how to navigate the site, you'd quickly realise there was no assertion, just a statement of fact. ALL TV viewing figures are down, partially down to over-proliferation of channels (that means too many channels by the way) and also to the increased access to alternate media resources (that means the internet, android apps', streaming etc.).

Re: Super League - Sky Viewing Figures : Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:18 pm  

http://www.barb.co.uk/trendspotting/dat ... ewing?_s=4 This is perhaps a better example of the changing percentage of audience share over the years. 2003 v 2013 BBC 1....25.6 - 21.0 (down 4.6%) BBC 2....7.5 - 5.7 (down 1.8%) ITV....23.7 - 15.4 (down 8.3%) C4....6.8 - 4.9 (down 1.9%) C5....6.5 - 4.1 (down 2.4%) Other Channels....23.6 - 46.8 (up 23.2%)

http://www.barb.co.uk/trendspotting/dat ... ewing?_s=4 This is perhaps a better example of the changing percentage of audience share over the years. 2003 v 2013 BBC 1....25.6 - 21.0 (down 4.6%) BBC 2....7.5 - 5.7 (down 1.8%) ITV....23.7 - 15.4 (down 8.3%) C4....6.8 - 4.9 (down 1.9%) C5....6.5 - 4.1 (down 2.4%) Other Channels....23.6 - 46.8 (up 23.2%)

Re: Super League - Sky Viewing Figures : Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:20 pm  

William Eve wrote:

SKY VIEWING FIGURES... - *source barb.co.uk (Weekly Top 10s)

2014 viewing figures updated to week ending Sep 07, 2014

Regular Season
2008: 7,552k/48 = 157k average
2009: 8,555k/56 = 153k average
2010: 9,590k/60 = 160k average
2011: 9,138k/56 = 163k average
2012: 10,975k/65= 169k average
2013: 9,698k/63 = 154k average
2014: 6,754k/50 = 135k average <----- down by over 12%

Play-Offs
2008: --676k/3 = 225k average
2009: 1,242k/6 = 207k average
2010: 1,552k/8 = 194k average
2011: 1,583k/8 = 198k average
2012: 1,285k/7 = 184k average
2013: 1,234k/7 = 176k average
2014: ????

Grand Final
2008: 325k
2009: 365k
2010: 299k
2011: 319k
2012: 324k
2013: 276k
2014: ????

World Club Challenge:
2008: 332k
2009: 367k
2010: 307k
2011: 206k
2012: 264k
2013: 303k
2014: 159K (Saturday morning)

Championship
2008: -565k/11 = 51k
2009: -985k/21 = 47k
2010: -764k/14 = 55k
2011: 1,309k/20= 65k
2012: n/a
2013: n/a
2014: n/a

I have just asked mi Geordie mucker to have a look at this and his conclusions ''Youre a right one eyed poop stirring bugga''

Re: Super League - Sky Viewing Figures : Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:22 pm  

Fully wrote:

Double-edged sword. For me, it should be one Thurs, one Fri and rest of the non-TV games played Sunday.

However, clubs will argue that their commercial income will be reduced by moving games (although it could be argued they'd get more families and fans on Sunday games) and so the RFL wouldn't want to implement anything which may damage the income coming to clubs and the financial strength of the game, understandably.

That said, I do think it is disappointing as I do believe more fans would travel to Sunday games compared to Fri night trips down the 62. And TV games would generate more viewers too, which can only be good from a branding perspective to clubs and Super League itself.

Hull's games moved back to Sundays in 2012, but the crowds didn't increase, the away crowds still didn't turn up, and the club finds it a lot easier to sell corporate tickets on a Friday night than on a Sunday (as people prefer to take clients out after work, rather than spend a day of their weekend 'working') and it means less games are re-arranged for TV.

Friday night away games are a pain for me too, but I can see why the clubs do it.

Re: Super League - Sky Viewing Figures : Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:57 am  

I don't understand what the issue is. Surely the total number of people watching super league on Sky has gone up this season since they are showing more super league games due to the Catalan home games also being televised.

Re: Super League - Sky Viewing Figures : Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:29 am  

I preferred it when the old Crusaders played on Friday nights because it left the weekend free.

Re: Super League - Sky Viewing Figures : Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:43 am  

William Eve wrote:

You're out of your depth here AA.

Or maybe you meant the other AA

I give credit where it's due, and you're almost in a premier league of your own in exhaustively analyzing these figures, bravely disregarding the fact that there's actually no point. You are the lone trans-Atlantic rower of this kind of thing and if I had a hat, I'd take it off. Sadly though, to a degree I share similarly anal traits so even though I may on occasion seem harsh, I do sympathise.

Re: Super League - Sky Viewing Figures : Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:07 am  

1. Round 8 was just before Easter when 5 of the 7 league games were on a Friday night including the aforementioned Warrington v Hull KR game and also when Wigan, St Helens, Leeds, Bradford and Castleford were all at home.

2. Bradford were only on sky 4 times; Wakefield away on a Thursday, Hull KR at home on a Friday night, Magic Weekend and Catalan away. The reduction in sky showing the Bulls is as good as any rationale to explain the decline in Super League viewing figures.

Case closed...

Re: Super League - Sky Viewing Figures : Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:29 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: :DRUNK: Or maybe you meant the other AA I give credit where it's due, and you're almost in a premier league of your own in exhaustively analyzing these figures, bravely disregarding the fact that there's actually no point. You are the lone trans-Atlantic rower of this kind of thing and if I had a hat, I'd take it off. Sadly though, to a degree I share similarly anal traits so even though I may on occasion seem harsh, I do sympathise. You'd be amazed at who dine off the table of my 'Premier League-esque' geeky stat SL attendance or viewing figure offerings, then go away, make a few little changes and claim them as their very own 'revealing' work. I'm sure this latest effort is just mere coincidence though.

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: :DRUNK: Or maybe you meant the other AA I give credit where it's due, and you're almost in a premier league of your own in exhaustively analyzing these figures, bravely disregarding the fact that there's actually no point. You are the lone trans-Atlantic rower of this kind of thing and if I had a hat, I'd take it off. Sadly though, to a degree I share similarly anal traits so even though I may on occasion seem harsh, I do sympathise. You'd be amazed at who dine off the table of my 'Premier League-esque' geeky stat SL attendance or viewing figure offerings, then go away, make a few little changes and claim them as their very own 'revealing' work. I'm sure this latest effort is just mere coincidence though.

Re: Super League - Sky Viewing Figures : Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:51 am  

Take solice in the fact that SL on paytv in UK is far more popular than Super15 on paytv in Australia!