Re: Gary Wheeler Signed : Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:15 am  

Teessidewire wrote:

The Club isn't really taking a chance at all. It's a 1 year contract and he certainly won't be on top money. If he does manage to stay fit then he'll be a real asset and no doubt he'll be offered an enhanced contract for future years. If it doesn't work out, then there's very little lost.

Very true, the chance all depends on how you look at it I was assuming it being his injuries, TS seems happy enough with it all, I'm looking forward to seeing him play.

Re: Gary Wheeler Signed : Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:26 am  

I think he is a great player Irishwire.
If he stayed at Sts as a hb, he would likely clash with Walsh's style.
Lance doesn't and thinking about it, neither would Myler if he ever went there.

Wheeler was always well liked at Saints as a youngster, had injury not hampered him, I'm sure he would be up there with the best. I've not known him from what I've seen on TV ever to have a poor game.
I think the Saints fans are just throwing a few knives at him for leaving and joining an enemy.

Although I don't know this, purely a guess, but I wouldn't be surprised if his departure had something to do with Cunningham taking over as head. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't get along.

Re: Gary Wheeler Signed : Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:28 am  

morrisseyisawire wrote:

The days of players like John Woods who you put in their best position and built the team around them are gone, sadly.

Those days were gone even when we had John Woods! He was shunted out of his best position so that Phil Blake could play in the halves. Still annoys me to this day.

Re: Gary Wheeler Signed : Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:34 am  

worthing wire wrote:

Those days were gone even when we had John Woods! He was shunted out of his best position so that Phil Blake could play in the halves. Still annoys me to this day.

Not me, loved Woods but Blake was the best player I have ever seen.

Re: Gary Wheeler Signed : Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:36 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

Not me, loved Woods but Blake was the best player I have ever seen.

As a centre he was brilliant, in the halves not so much. Other way round with Woods.

Re: Gary Wheeler Signed : Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:46 am  

I don't know, I had goggle blinkers on back then, I was in mesmerised by Blake.

Re: Gary Wheeler Signed : Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:30 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

I think he is a great player Irishwire.
If he stayed at Sts as a hb, he would likely clash with Walsh's style.
Lance doesn't and thinking about it, neither would Myler if he ever went there.

Wheeler was always well liked at Saints as a youngster, had injury not hampered him, I'm sure he would be up there with the best. I've not known him from what I've seen on TV ever to have a poor game.
I think the Saints fans are just throwing a few knives at him for leaving and joining an enemy.

Although I don't know this, purely a guess, but I wouldn't be surprised if his departure had something to do with Cunningham taking over as head. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't get along.

Saints fans aren't throwing knives at anyone. Wheeler had many years in the first team and never made himself available for enough games to ever establish himself in the team. He finished this season a good couple of stone overweight. A lot of Saints fans have said it's a shame, he's clearly talented, but no one could justify giving him another deal. We are well aware of the possibility of him joining Wire, playing a good stretch of games and starting to fulfill his potential. It could well come back to bite us, but had we given him another deal questions would have had to be asked.

Wheeler was highly rated as a kid, many rated him higher than Kyle Eastmond. Whilst Kyle came through and established himself and got a big money move to Union, Wheeler has never progressed beyond being a young squad member. In the years I've watched him I can remember 40 minutes at Wigan where he looked superb, one amazing pass one time and one or two jinking runs of note. And that's in about 7 years. I honestly don't know much about him, does he have a kicking game? How fast is he in open space? Can he organise the team when playing in the halves? And when you can't answer questions like that about a player who is 25 and has been with the club all his life, it shows how little he's shown us.

I don't think there is anything in the Cunningham allegation you've made either. Everyone at Saints seems to be of the opinion that he's talented, but that he's had all his chances now. There are undertones that people don't think he is committed enough to the profession and a lot of question marks over his social circle and family. I don't know much about that, but it did always annoy me when he'd play 20 minutes after 3 months out, get injured, then post pictures of himself on the couch with a beer and a big bar of Galaxy on Twitter.

I'd wager a lot that Smith has Ratchford at 6 and O'Brien at 7 and Wheeler is a roll of the dice with the remaining salary cap that he's not relying on a return from.

Re: Gary Wheeler Signed : Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:59 am  

What harm can it do to give him a go.... and if it all falls through then at least the rest of the team can get mates rates for their dogs being clipped at Shampoochies!

Re: Gary Wheeler Signed : Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:19 pm  

64 appearances since 2008

Re: Gary Wheeler Signed : Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:38 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Saints fans aren't throwing knives at anyone. Wheeler had many years in the first team and never made himself available for enough games to ever establish himself in the team. He finished this season a good couple of stone overweight. A lot of Saints fans have said it's a shame, he's clearly talented, but no one could justify giving him another deal. We are well aware of the possibility of him joining Wire, playing a good stretch of games and starting to fulfill his potential. It could well come back to bite us, but had we given him another deal questions would have had to be asked.

Wheeler was highly rated as a kid, many rated him higher than Kyle Eastmond. Whilst Kyle came through and established himself and got a big money move to Union, Wheeler has never progressed beyond being a young squad member. In the years I've watched him I can remember 40 minutes at Wigan where he looked superb, one amazing pass one time and one or two jinking runs of note. And that's in about 7 years. I honestly don't know much about him, does he have a kicking game? How fast is he in open space? Can he organise the team when playing in the halves? And when you can't answer questions like that about a player who is 25 and has been with the club all his life, it shows how little he's shown us.

I don't think there is anything in the Cunningham allegation you've made either. Everyone at Saints seems to be of the opinion that he's talented, but that he's had all his chances now. There are undertones that people don't think he is committed enough to the profession and a lot of question marks over his social circle and family. I don't know much about that, but it did always annoy me when he'd play 20 minutes after 3 months out, get injured, then post pictures of himself on the couch with a beer and a big bar of Galaxy on Twitter.

I'd wager a lot that Smith has Ratchford at 6 and O'Brien at 7 and Wheeler is a roll of the dice with the remaining salary cap that he's not relying on a return from.

The grand final win has done funny things to you, this is far too sensible