Re: Tomkins open to Australia move.. : Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:54 pm  

Well until Australia start getting behind international rugby league just forget it.

The international game cannot be structured better when the number 1 country for the game isn't interested.

Re: Tomkins open to Australia move.. : Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:48 pm  

Barnabus wrote:

Union prioritise their international calendar over anything else. They've also made it regular, so the fans know that every Spring it'll be the 6 nations, every Summer & Winter will see tours and a World Cup every 4 years.

In league we have no idea whats happening from one year to the next. The last few world cups have gone from 1995 to 2000, to 2008 to 2013 - we have no pattern or regularity.

With regard to the big crowds at Twickers, the RFU have the advantage of having a set home, so the fans know that England at home means Twickenham and they arrange accordingley. England RL could be playing anywhere. They also, following 6 nation games, have two full years to sell tickets for the next time that fixture is played. Each club is sent tickets for the game to sell, who send back any they haven't sold after the first year. They'll then receive either more or less the following time, and get a % of the ticket price as a 'commission'.

Whatever Union has done, it's worked. We need to learn from it.

As far as Twickenham is concerned, don't fall for their attendance. They give about a third of their tickets away.

Re: Tomkins open to Australia move.. : Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:52 pm  

kobashi wrote:

Well until Australia start getting behind international rugby league just forget it.

The international game cannot be structured better when the number 1 country for the game isn't interested.

Australian League is thriving. Why does Australia need to get behind the international game, because they have a successful League scene? Well then look at why the game is big there, it's in spite of international.

In Australia they focus on making their domestic competition brilliant. It's a loser English mentality to think a strong international game will help the domestic game.

English League fans need to stop trying to compete with sports such as Rugby Union and Football, League is not an international game and won't be for decades at the very very least. Do what the Aussies do, they look to the Yanks to create a thriving sport.

If English League looked towards America and Australian domestic sports, rather than football and Rugby, we'd be in a much better state.

Re: Tomkins open to Australia move.. : Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:55 am  

Sam would need protection over there? Wane would noy be happy

Re: Tomkins open to Australia move.. : Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:00 am  

r a n c i d wrote:

Australian League is thriving. Why does Australia need to get behind the international game, because they have a successful League scene? Well then look at why the game is big there, it's in spite of international.

In Australia they focus on making their domestic competition brilliant. It's a loser English mentality to think a strong international game will help the domestic game.

English League fans need to stop trying to compete with sports such as Rugby Union and Football, League is not an international game and won't be for decades at the very very least. Do what the Aussies do, they look to the Yanks to create a thriving sport.

If English League looked towards America and Australian domestic sports, rather than football and Rugby, we'd be in a much better state.

Exactly. The problem with trying to copy *anything* is not looking at the starting context. A World Cup and farcically creating home nations teams is an example of trying to mimic something entirely unrealistic. The Wales RU team is the child of Welsh Rugby, not the other way around. I can't think of any other sport where almost the first team of professional players ever created in that country is the national team itself.

Get ideas, but use your brains, and *think* about what is realistic for *our* game instead.

Re: Tomkins open to Australia move.. : Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:09 am  

kobashi wrote:

Well until Australia start getting behind international rugby league just forget it.

The international game cannot be structured better when the number 1 country for the game isn't interested.

They won't become interested until we can beat them. It's like us playing Wales or France, it's barely a contest...

Re: Tomkins open to Australia move.. : Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:40 pm  

West Coast Pirates 2015. You read it here first!

Re: Tomkins open to Australia move.. : Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:55 pm  

JB Down Under wrote:

West Coast Pirates 2015. You read it here first!

i read it last week its old news

Re: Tomkins open to Australia move.. : Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:57 pm  

JB Down Under wrote:

West Coast Pirates 2015. You read it here first!

Would be a great signing, hopefully they'll sign a few players from SL.

Re: Tomkins open to Australia move.. : Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:47 pm  

Can't stand the odious Tomkins.

The sooner he does one to the NRL the better.