4 Nations 2014 thread : Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:07 am  

So the domestic season is now over and the international season is almost here and all the teams involved have named their squads:

Aussie squad:

Greg Bird (Gold Coast Titans/West Maitland Red Dogs/ Maitland Pumpkin Pickers)
Daly Cherry-Evans (Manly Warringah Sea Eagles/Mackay Brothers)
Boyd Cordner (Sydney Roosters/Old Bar Pirates)
Cooper Cronk (Melbourne Storm/Souths Acacia)
Robbie Farah (Wests Tigers/Enfield Federals/Leichhardt Wanderers)
Aidan Guerra (Sydney Roosters/Townsville Brothers)
Jarryd Hayne (Parramatta Eels/East Campbelltown Eagles/Cabramatta)
Ryan Hoffman (Melbourne Storm/Campbelltown Collegians)
Ben Hunt Brisbane (Broncos/Blackwater Crushers)
Greg Inglis (South Sydney Rabbitohs/Bowraville Tigers)
Josh Jackson (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs/Gulgong Terriers/Mudgee Dragons)
Michael Jennings (Sydney Roosters/St Marys/West City Tigers)
Alex Johnston (South Sydney Rabbitohs/La Perouse Panthers)
David Klemmer (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs/All Saints)
Josh Mansour (Penrith Panthers/St Johns/Kingsgrove Colts)
Sione Mata’utia (Newcastle Knights/Raymond Terrace/South Newcastle)
Josh Papalii (Canberra Raiders/Logan Brothers)
Corey Parker (Brisbane Broncos/Logan Brothers)
Beau Scott (Newcastle Knights/Picton Magpies)
Cameron Smith (c) (Melbourne Storm/Logan Brothers)
Sam Thaiday (Brisbane Broncos/Townsville Brothers)
Daniel Tupou (Sydney Roosters/Berala Bears/Guildford Owls)
Dylan Walker (South Sydney Rabbitohs/Mascot Jets)
Aaron Woods (Wests Tigers/Leichhardt Juniors)

New Zealand squad:

Gerard Beale (St George Illawarra Dragons)
Adam Blair (Wests Tigers)
Jesse Bromwich (Melbourne Storm)
Lewis Brown (Penrith Panthers)
Greg Eastwood (Canterbury Bulldogs)
Sosaia Feki (Cronulla Sharks)
Kieran Foran (Manly Sea Eagles)
Tohu Harris (Melbourne Storm)
Siliva Havili (Vodafone Warriors)
Peta Hiku (Manly Sea Eagles)
Shaun Johnson (Vodafone Warriors)
Shaun Kenny-Dowall (Sydney Roosters)
Thomas Leuluai (Vodafone Warriors)
Issac Luke (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
Simon Mannering (Vodafone Warriors)
Suaia Matagi (Vodafone Warriors)
Sam Moa (Sydney Roosters)
Jason Nightingale (St George Illawarra Dragons)
Kevin Proctor (Melbourne Storm)
Jason Taumalolo (North Queensland Cowboys)
Martin Taupau (Wests Tigers)
Manu Vatuvei (Vodafone Warriors)
Dallin Watene-Zelezniak (Penrith Panthers)
Dean Whare (Penrith Panthers)

England squad:

George Burgess, South Sydney Rabbitohs, Dewsbury Moor
Joe Burgess, Wigan Warriors, Ince Rose Bridge
Tom Burgess, South Sydney Rabbitohs, Dewsbury Moor
Josh Charnley, Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks
Daryl Clark, Castleford Tigers, Newsome Panthers
Mike Cooper, St George Illawarra Dragons, Latchford Albion
Liam Farrell, Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks
Brett Ferres, Huddersfield Giants, Smawthorne Panthers
James Graham, Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs, Blackbrook
Ryan Hall, Leeds Rhinos, Oulton Raiders
Zak Hardaker, Leeds Rhinos, Featherstone Lions
Chris Hill, Warrington Wolves, New Spring Lions
Josh Hodgson, Hull KR, East Hull
Sean O’Loughlin (captain), Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks
Stefan Ratchford, Warrington Wolves, Wigan St Patricks
Dan Sarginson, Wigan Warriors, Hemel Stags
Michael Shenton, Castleford Tigers, Upton
Matty Smith, Wigan Warriors, Blackbrook
Joel Tomkins, Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks
Sam Tomkins, New Zealand Warriors, Wigan St Patricks
Kallum Watkins, Leeds Rhinos, Latchford Albion
Joe Westerman, Hull FC, Featherstone Lions
Elliott Whitehead, Catalans Dragons, West Bowling
Gareth Widdop, St George Illawarra Dragons, King Cross

Samoa squad:

Leeson Ah Mau (St George Illawarra)
David Fa'alogo (Newcastle)
Pita Godinet (Wakefield)
Tim Lafai (Canterbury Bulldogs)
Joey Leilua (Newcastle)
Ricky Leutele (Cronulla Sharks)
Isacc Liu (Sydney Roosters)
Dunamis Lui (Manly)
Penania Manumalealii (Cronulla)
Mose Masoe (St Helens)
Peter Mata'utia (St George Illawarra)
Reni Maitua (Canterbury Bulldogs)
Tautau Moga (North Queensland Cowboys)
Dominique Peyroux (NZ Warriors)
Frank Pritchard (Canterbury Bulldogs)
Ben Roberts (Melbourne)
Jesse Sene-Lefao (Manly)
Tim Simona (Wests Tigers)
Michael Sio (NZ Warriors)
Kyle Stanley (St George Illawarra)
Sauaso Sue (Wests Tigers)
Sam Tagataese (Cronulla)
Daniel Vidot (Brisbane)
Antonio Winterstein (North Queensland Cowboys)

Austrailia are weaker than they've been for a long time but there's no such thing as a poor Aussie RL team, and England without Burgess and Roby are obviously weaker.
I reckon NZ will be very confident about winning this competition, they have a strong squad and always seem to be better at home.
Samoa probably won't win a game but they'll provide more of a test than Wales and PNG have in previous years.

I can't wait

Re: 4 Nations 2014 thread : Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:22 am  

Lot of responsibility now falls on Cronk for Australia. Were he to get injured or not play at his best, Australia would be vulnerable if they had to rely on DCE.

Australia playing at anything approaching their best though should walk it.

The worry for me is that England are going to come back winless. There's some experience and no little ability in that Samoa squad.

Re: 4 Nations 2014 thread : Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:35 am  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Lot of responsibility now falls on Cronk for Australia. Were he to get injured or not play at his best, Australia would be vulnerable if they had to rely on DCE.

Australia playing at anything approaching their best though should walk it.

The worry for me is that England are going to come back winless. There's some experience and no little ability in that Samoa squad.

Gidley, Hunt, or Inglis could step into the halves, to me they look weakest at prop, and on the wings.

Re: 4 Nations 2014 thread : Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:40 pm  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

Gidley, Hunt, or Inglis could step into the halves, to me they look weakest at prop, and on the wings.

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Re: 4 Nations 2014 thread : Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:42 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Lot of responsibility now falls on Cronk for Australia. Were he to get injured or not play at his best, Australia would be vulnerable if they had to rely on DCE.

Australia playing at anything approaching their best though should walk it.

The worry for me is that England are going to come back winless. There's some experience and no little ability in that Samoa squad.

Smith could move to the halves with Farah starting at 9 were Cronk to get injured.

Re: 4 Nations 2014 thread : Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:50 pm  

Does anybody keep tabs on how many England/GB internationals the amateur clubs produce over the years? Lots of familiar names on there that would doubtless have very big numbers, some less frequent flyers too.

Would Sarginson be Hemel Stags' first full international if picked?

Re: 4 Nations 2014 thread : Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:52 pm  

rhinos21 wrote:

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Oops, hadn't realised he wasn't in the squad.

Re: 4 Nations 2014 thread : Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:45 am  

Does that mean Hayne is out of 4nations with him joining NFL or is it after he goes?

Would imagine GI to fullback. if so, good news as it severely weakens their centres which would be very good news for whichever Centre of ours would have had to mark him. That said, he is probably Australias best full back and his extra involvement could make him more dangerous so perhaps not such good news after all!!

Re: 4 Nations 2014 thread : Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:59 am  

Hayne is out of the 4N. I'm struggling to predict what their team will look like.

Re: 4 Nations 2014 thread : Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:09 am  

Best i can come up with for the Aussie team is:

Inglis
Tupou
Jennning
Walker
Johnson

Cronk
Cherry-Evans

Scott
Smith
Woods
Cordner
Hoffman
Bird

Hunt
Parker
Thaiday
Papalii