Re: RFU to introduce Marquee Signing exemption : Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:32 pm  

if we carry on? its been like this since 1995 with the NRL and RU taking our talent pool. not stopped RL being as awesome as it always has been. other players always step up and fill the void.

as for my original comment; im not sure why youve claimed that. you put that fans will be attracted to talent as will sponsors, yet your team made huuuuge signings with 3 names that most clubs would of been happy to sign just 1 of (Hock, Locke and Chase) let alone the others. yet this hasnt attracted the fans, or the sponsors. so how many superstars does a team require to be able to atract these sponsors and fans?

Re: RFU to introduce Marquee Signing exemption : Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:03 pm  

Bloody hell mate - Chase injured in game 1 and then missing for much of the season, Hock great for the first 3 or 4 games then a tad iffy then decides to take out the ref and banned for the rest of the season and Locke arrived in time for the last half dozen games, plays 1 blinder (Hudds away), misses the next couple injured then plays the last couple of meaningless fixtures while clearly not fit and carrying a few pounds extra.
Yep, that's going to pull the fans in alright!!!!

Re: RFU to introduce Marquee Signing exemption : Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:28 pm  

Not sure if this idea would work sign a Marquee player pay him 5 times more than any other player and half the team buy into it and half think sod this he is getting x pounds more than me.It happened at Wakey years ago Wally Lewis great player £1000 per game paid by a fan not the club but half the team had the sod it let him do the graft and take the stick why should I on £90 for a win.

Re: RFU to introduce Marquee Signing exemption : Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:47 pm  

les-goose wrote:

Not sure if this idea would work sign a Marquee player pay him 5 times more than any other player and half the team buy into it and half think sod this he is getting x pounds more than me.It happened at Wakey years ago Wally Lewis great player £1000 per game paid by a fan not the club but half the team had the sod it let him do the graft and take the stick why should I on £90 for a win.

You're right there mate I remember it well but Wally was still fantastic on his own and I went to some games just because he was playing. Would be interesting to see if there was any dramatic increase in trins attendances for those games but FWIW I don't think 1 player would make that much difference now. Strangely enough I know some opposition fans went to games hoping to see Wally fall flat on his face. He never did.

Re: RFU to introduce Marquee Signing exemption : Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:24 am  

newgroundb4wakey wrote:

Wally was still fantastic on his own and I went to some games just because he was playing... Strangely enough I know some opposition fans went to games hoping to see Wally fall flat on his face. He never did.

In a nutshell, the best argument for the marquee player.

Re: RFU to introduce Marquee Signing exemption : Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:59 am  

Its no use though if you are relegated and loose the rest of the good players and lower crowds at games following season as happened at Wakey.

Re: RFU to introduce Marquee Signing exemption : Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:33 pm  

les-goose wrote:

Its no use though if you are relegated and loose the rest of the good players and lower crowds at games following season as happened at Wakey.

Similar has happened at Salford, and quite recently too. However, a long build from the bottom up is unlikely to be the best option for Salford and Marwan either. We need a decent team, and quick.

Re: RFU to introduce Marquee Signing exemption : Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:59 pm  

les-goose wrote:

Not sure if this idea would work sign a Marquee player pay him 5 times more than any other player and half the team buy into it and half think sod this he is getting x pounds more than me.It happened at Wakey years ago Wally Lewis great player £1000 per game paid by a fan not the club but half the team had the sod it let him do the graft and take the stick why should I on £90 for a win.

Wally Lewis played for Wakefield when most British players were part-time, so, inevitably, the pay differentials between Lewis and the rest of the squad were massive. That's not the case any more. Such pay differentials as there already are aren't going to be exacerbated to any great extent by the introduction of a marquee player. As newgroundb4wakey - who is obviously a huge fan of marquee player rule, despite previously arguing against it - the marquee players draw the punters in, and that's what we want isn't it?

Re: RFU to introduce Marquee Signing exemption : Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:02 pm  

les-goose wrote:

Its no use though if you are relegated and loose the rest of the good players and lower crowds at games following season as happened at Wakey.

That's not an argument against marquee players though is it? You could get relegated whether you've got a marquee player or not, and the effects are the same: you lose players and attendances drop. Let's not disappoint newgroundb4wakey. He's clearly jonesing for the marquee player rule.

Re: RFU to introduce Marquee Signing exemption : Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:58 pm  

Red John wrote:

Wally Lewis played for Wakefield when most British players were part-time, so, inevitably, the pay differentials between Lewis and the rest of the squad were massive. That's not the case any more. Such pay differentials as there already are aren't going to be exacerbated to any great extent by the introduction of a marquee player. As newgroundb4wakey - who is obviously a huge fan of marquee player rule, despite previously arguing against it - the marquee players draw the punters in, and that's what we want isn't it?

A completely different era John and completely different circumstances for me. Back then as you say there were no contracts (Wally apart) and it was mostly winning or losing pay and expenses for the elite. At the time I had a well paid job and young sons who had just started playing junior rugby. I would take them any where within reason to nurture their interest in rugby league. I'm a pensioner now and I wouldn't be able to afford to travel very far from home to away matches even if Sonny Bill or Slammin' Sam were playing for the opposition. Give me an honest answer to this :- did you get fed up of Wigan winning every thing before they self imploded and went bust. Thats why the salary cap was brought in to prevent teams going bust and even up the competition. For me the salary cap is just starting to work and this season has been the most open ever and a true test of the coaches ability. If you didn't have your current rich owner I doubt if you'de want the marquee signing. It would be a backward step for me but hey ho thats what forums are for.
p.s. The one thing that stood out for me when watching Wally was his 30 metre flat bullet pass. I'd never seen any thing like it but neither had any of the Trin players and no one could catch them much to Wally's disgust.