Re: Announcement Tomorrow Morning : Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:47 am  

mat wrote:

As a head coach. Think he'd go we'll as an assistant and knows championship inside out which would help. Just a guess aeotd.

Unfortunately he didn't know The Championship inside out. His coaching manual hasn't received it's V.8.1 upgrade and he's still on the 2004 version. Lovely bloke though and a Fax player Hall of Famer. Just not a good coach.

Re: Announcement Tomorrow Morning : Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:53 am  

littlerich wrote:

Unfortunately he didn't know The Championship inside out. His coaching manual hasn't received it's V.8.1 upgrade and he's still on the 2004 version. Lovely bloke though and a Fax player Hall of Famer. Just not a good coach.

Funny that, because he was Nobby's assistant at Odsal for a couple of years before leaving in 2002 to join Salford. When he left, we were reigning World Club Champions, as well as having beaten Wigan to be 2001 SL champions before going on to beat Newcastle Knights in his second year, when we again made the Grand Final.

Now, any troll on here will tell you that Nobby can't coach - never could - and had no Plan B. Given Harrison can't coach either, particularly it seems as a SL assistant coach, boy are we in trouble.

[Bullseye]

Re: Announcement Tomorrow Morning : Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:56 am  

littlerich wrote:

Unfortunately he didn't know The Championship inside out. His coaching manual hasn't received it's V.8.1 upgrade and he's still on the 2004 version. Lovely bloke though and a Fax player Hall of Famer. Just not a good coach.

Maybe he'd just been at Fax too long? Got stale? Even if he is a bit of a lame duck as you say he's an improvement on what we have had which is no assistant at all.

When he left Fax early there were some rumours of off field problems to do with cash. If there was substance in that it could well have an effect on him and who he could recruit etc.

He's been there and done it as a player and as a coach he's done well on a limited budget in the past.

Re: Announcement Tomorrow Morning : Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:40 pm  

Well I'm very happy. I guess time will tell, but at this point outcomes are better than I had any reason to expect.

[Bulliac]

Re: Announcement Tomorrow Morning : Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:09 pm  

Didn't Fax finish 3rd in the league? Apparently with money problems , so it doesn't look like Rhino did too badly at all really.

[Bullseye]

Re: Announcement Tomorrow Morning : Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:20 pm  

Apparently Fax have been tailing off somewhat in recent seasons and playing some uninspiring rugby. A Fax supporting mate told me the nilling by Dewsbury was absolutely awful (but Harrison had gone by then). Seems they’ve been on a downward trajectory but as you say 3rd isn’t that bad on paper. For the sake of the derby next year I hope Marshall gets them on the up again.

From listening to Harrison on the radio his voice does have a bit of a soporific quality. Not in the same league as Jon Sharpe thankfully, but a long way from being an inspirational motivator.

I was listening to Paul Anderson on radio Leeds a few weeks back (another one with monotone delivery) and he was saying it’s up to players to provide their own motivation. I’m sure he’s right but I also think it’s up to the coach to do some of that too. Hopefully Lowes has got that ability. If not maybe he could get some poetry from Sir Peter Fox?

[Bulliac]

Re: Announcement Tomorrow Morning : Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:34 pm  

From all that we've been hearing from 'within' recently, it appears Jimmy is the firebrand, with the inspirational, red hot rhetoric, so unless all the players have been telling porkies, it seems that department is probably covered.

At the end of the day, Karl had a decent reputation when he left the club previously and whilst he didn't exactly cover himself in glory at Salford, it has to be said, that was hardly the easiest gig in SL [some things never change..] so for a rookie coach he probably did as well as could be expected. As a player, he never took a backward step, so if he can instill a bit of that into the side he'll do OK for me. If he can do it without shouting, well so much the better..

Re: Announcement Tomorrow Morning : Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:40 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

I was listening to Paul Anderson on radio Leeds a few weeks back (another one with monotone delivery) and he was saying it’s up to players to provide their own motivation.

There's a certain kind of guy who can say that, believe it, and be completely unaware of how much of it he actually is providing. I would put money on Anderson being one of those.

Re: Announcement Tomorrow Morning : Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:47 pm  

We've been tailing off right from the point that Harrison took over. He has completely coached all the flair out of a once exciting team. Ex-fax players released by Karl now in the Championship Team of The Year - and not one current Fax player in it. Believe me, he's a poor coach. Don't take my word for it though - there's plenty on the Fax & Salford forums who will back up my statement.

Re: Announcement Tomorrow Morning : Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:59 pm  

littlerich wrote:

We've been tailing off right from the point that Harrison took over. He has completely coached all the flair out of a once exciting team. Ex-fax players released by Karl now in the Championship Team of The Year - and not one current Fax player in it. Believe me, he's a poor coach. Don't take my word for it though - there's plenty on the Fax & Salford forums who will back up my statement.

In fairness he's the assistant. BIG difference.