Re: David Tarry gone : Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:27 pm  

I don't think Tarry ever recovered his relationship with some supporters after trying to push through a particularly devious pledge called the Fans Charter. You may not remember it because it was very short lived, but it received publicity for a week or so in which fans and Tarry exchanged frank views. In short, any display of criticism or exuberant behaviour was deemed to be against the principles of the family game and therefore the club. And signing the Fans Charter was agreeing to this, meaning the vast majority of people who post on here could be thrown out on a whim.

This was a nadir for club/fan relations, after which we saw SRISA and the seeds for Forever Reds, which certainly improved communication.

Ire against Tarry was then probably redirected towards Simms (many more fans care about the football side of things as oppose to administrative matters), and diluted by Trish Goldsmith's involvement in the club and the plans for a new stadium. It's no surprise then after Trish left (and later Adam Jude, who hardly made a mark) and the deflation experienced on arrival of the scaled-down SCS, that attention turned once again to Tarry.

The 800lb Neil Baynes in the room is the spectre or lure of the 'Manchester' brand, to which Salford have never succumbed to under Wilkinson and Tarry. Whoever assumes Tarry's duties needs to stand up to this.

Re: David Tarry gone : Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:54 pm  

EX.SALF.UNI wrote:

His salary going into the squad or some glossy posters is a benefit, I suppose.

I'd guess more likely is that he has been paid a handsome sum to vacate the roll and there will be very little (if any) left of his salary. The consulting firm won't be cheap and will be charging a pretty penny to help run the club if the reports are to believed.

Re: David Tarry gone : Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:21 pm  

You can't have it both ways.
You want change so Tarry's gone. There's a cost attached to that but it's a one off this year,whatever it is.
You want fresh ideas so we have management consultants(ideas people) to run it.
This will only be short term,because that's the way it works.
Let's just be supportive and see what happens.
The odds are they will have some good ideas and some crazy ones but ,at least,we have a fresh pair of eyes looking at it.

Re: David Tarry gone : Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:27 am  

Bonita Red is spot on for once.

Change is just around the corner......People want change. Change takes time.

Re: David Tarry gone : Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:09 am  

Singapore Steeps wrote:

Change is just around the corner......People want change. Change takes time.

With you being out in Singapore and having more knowledge than one slightly nearer will I be able to read about this change in next weeks RLE ?

Is the removal of Mr Tarry the panacea for all ills ?

Will the efforts of Steuer Gregsson bring a smile to the faces of the coaching staff ?

Will the club shop become fully stocked with 'must-have' goodies ?

Will a pleb supporter like me get information in a format which is different from trying to piece together a jigsaw with different pieces missing each time I look at it ?

Most importantly,is the change for the better ?

Re: David Tarry gone : Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:27 am  

I remember a Monty Python sketch years ago where the world was in terrible turmoil, the government of the day did some research and found that a bloke who owned a cornershop was to blame for it all, so they took him out and hung him, then the world got better straight away.

Re: David Tarry gone : Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:35 am  

SCR-SeaDiver wrote:

Most importantly,is the change for the better ?

Time will tell, but it certainly won't make things any worse!

Re: David Tarry gone : Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:24 am  

SCR-SeaDiver wrote:

Is the removal of Mr Tarry the panacea for all ills ?

Will the efforts of Steuer Gregsson bring a smile to the faces of the coaching staff ?

Will the club shop become fully stocked with 'must-have' goodies ?

Will a pleb supporter like me get information in a format which is different from trying to piece together a jigsaw with different pieces missing each time I look at it ?

Most importantly,is the change for the better ?

I think getting shot of Tarry is just the beginning and I for one while not as continually downbeat as some saw the missed opportunity the move to the new ground as the final straw that the powers that be needed to act fast and for once I think Wilky is taking sage advice rather than from those with a vested interest in sweeping things under the carpet to continue feathering their own nest.

As for the club shop it isn't that bad to be fair there is just a need for small cheap trinkets for the kids that gets the clubs name and brand in their mindset at an early age. I know it happened mid season but there is a definate need for something for the kids with the new mascots image on it as for me the reaction it gets from them (hell it turned up at my workplace the other week and went down brilliantly with everyone) shows that club have got it very right.

As Ave It says it can't be any worse, I honestly think this is all work being done in preparation to make the club a better prospect for new investors or even better a new owner. What seems to have been missed is that the consultancy firm will have far wider contacts in the business world than someone like Tarry had and you can bet your bottom Dollar they will have a nice bonus waiting from Wilky if they get him someone with money to buy the club.

Re: David Tarry gone : Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:35 pm  

Michigan red wrote:

As for the club shop it isn't that bad to be fair there is just a need for small cheap trinkets for the kids that gets the clubs name and brand in their mindset at an early age.

I've been saying this for ages, e.g. my 8 year old is bonkers about Salford but his bedroom walls are pretty bare compared to my 12 year old's bedroom wall that is festooned with A3 size posters of various City players that came free with a match programme. It irks my 8 year old no end that he can't get posters of his favourite players like his brother can and constantly asks me why Salford don't do the same.

The moral here is that I don't tend to buy a programme these days but I would if it meant that I could make my 8 year old's day! I know were not City but the additional cost of producing the poster and packaging it with the programme should be fairly minimal and it would probably generate more income (from me anyway!). Alternatively, produce some posters and sell them separatlely in the club shop for £1 each. I think it's simple stuff like this that there needs to be more of for kids rather than trying to sell adult clothing at the £30 -£70 mark every time.

Re: David Tarry gone : Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:47 pm  

Always behind the sticks wrote:

Alternatively, produce some posters and sell them separatlely in the club shop for £1 each. I think it's simple stuff like this that there needs to be more of for kids rather than trying to sell adult clothing at the £30 -£70 mark every time.

Each player generally has a sponsor. Perhaps an idea is for the club to approach that sponsor with the poster idea. Get the sponsor to pay for say a 1000 glossy A3 posters in return for the sponsors logo being displayed on the poster with the player picture. It would only cost the sponsor a few hundred quid for printing in return for extra advertising for both them and the club. They could sell them in the club shop or outside the ground on matchdays and any left over could be given to school kids when they visit the stadium with the foundation team.