Re: players at bulls : Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:57 pm  

pie.warrior wrote:

keeping the young talented players could be that they have more value when sold for profit

What sense does that make?

Re: players at bulls : Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:59 pm  

About as much sense as our illustrious administrator neglecting our key asset for the future.

Re: players at bulls : Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:32 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

About as much sense as our illustrious administrator neglecting our key asset for the future.

I guess you mean the Junior sides?

Re: players at bulls : Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:01 pm  

i would love to keep all the players but im just saying which ones would you like to keep the most. How about the junior players - do they get paid?

Re: players at bulls : Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:13 pm  

The academy players that are contracted have been told they will get paid. Whether they will be paid any win bonuses (for the 18's) or for playing in the recent 9's tournaments remains to be seen.

[Bulliac]

Re: players at bulls : Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:15 am  

Adeybull wrote:

The administrator can sack anyone he wants, provided its not on the usual discriminatory grounds. The rest get TUPEd across to (any) successor business.

Those staff who are paid off are entitled to statutory redundancy pay, accrued holiday pay etc and pay in lieu of notice. Up to certain upper limits, in an insolvency situation these are paid by the DwP, who then stands in place of the employees as a preferential creditor.

Any amounts owing to employees above the statutory maxima rank as unsecured creditors. This applies especially to e.g. players with fixed-term contracts. And they take their chances with the rest.

Adey, I guess you'd be the one to know - is there any essential difference between long term hourly paid staff (office staff for instance) and those on a fixed term contract (ie players and coaching staff)? I did wonder if the terms of the player's contract might replace the usual statutory regulations.

Re: players at bulls : Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:16 pm  

On a related point, it was reported on Monday that mp had said he was only seeking alternative employment in aus, because his uk work permit only applied to employment with the bulls.

Does that mean that if the cub is sold to a newco, he would have re-apply for a work permit to stay with the new club?

Re: players at bulls : Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:47 pm  

MP becomes an "illegal alien" imminently and I understand that the UK Border Agency has already been in touch.

What a mess.

Re: players at bulls : Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:31 pm  

High profile coach soon becomes 'illegal alien', sort of makes you laugh considering the City of the team that he represented.

Re: players at bulls : Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:09 pm  

Cibaman wrote:

Does that mean that if the cub is sold to a newco, he would have re-apply for a work permit to stay with the new club?

No, not reapply for a work permit, just change the details of the Employer.
Work permits are relevant to the person's qualifying skills appropriate to the employer's trade.
He was approved for a work permit as a rugby league coach in the UK when he joined St Helens.
This carried on when he joined the Bulls, only the employer changed and would have been registered on his work permit.
The same would apply to his joining bulls Newco.
So its just an administrative thing