Re: Council forces closure of school dinners blog : Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:06 pm  

Big Graeme wrote:

So council workers should have to put up with headlines like "Time to sack the dinnerlady"?

That wasn't the blog that did that.

Big Graeme wrote:

Any worker should be able to go about their job without the fear of ridicule and persecution when a very narrow view of the facts is reported.

And they should also not have to face stupid stories that blame them for something that is not beyond their control – the menus etc. So the main problem is stupid, OTT headlines and 'reports'.

Big Graeme wrote:

Mind it was a but heavy handed from A&B but they do have a duty to protect their employees.

Some of the rhetoric has been utterly ridiculous, but who are the council protecting their employees from? Themselves? If the staff are directly employed, then the only people that could discipline them in any way would be the council itself.

As only a slight aside, what happened to there being no rafts of choices, and children eating what they were given (which happened to be freshly cooked on the premises)?

Do parents these days ask the little mites what they want on the menu each night – and then do what the aforementioned mites tell them?

Re: Council forces closure of school dinners blog : Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:18 pm  

Mintball wrote:

That wasn't the blog that did that.

Nope, but it did cause it, easy way to stop it is prevent the taking of the photographs, their school, their rules.

Mintball wrote:

As only a slight aside, what happened to there being no rafts of choices, and children eating what they were given (which happened to be freshly cooked on the premises)?

They have plenty of choices, I've witnessed first hand an A&B lunch service and the blog was in no way a reflection on what they do.

Mintball wrote:

Do parents these days ask the little mites what they want on the menu each night – and then do what the aforementioned mites tell them?

Sadly, yes they do. And more fool the parents that pander to them.

Re: Council forces closure of school dinners blog : Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:35 pm  

cod'ead wrote: Argyll & Bute Council have banned nine year old Martha Payne from taking pictures of her school dinners and posting them on her blog. Without the photographs, the blog is pretty meaningless, so she's closed it. Story Well done to those responsible, who also don't have the balls to speak to the press about their decision. One big fat own-goal Argyll & Bute, I hope you're proud. Who'd have thought it - members of a local authority, those bastions of public service, acting like that?

cod'ead wrote: Argyll & Bute Council have banned nine year old Martha Payne from taking pictures of her school dinners and posting them on her blog. Without the photographs, the blog is pretty meaningless, so she's closed it. Story Well done to those responsible, who also don't have the balls to speak to the press about their decision. One big fat own-goal Argyll & Bute, I hope you're proud. Who'd have thought it - members of a local authority, those bastions of public service, acting like that?

Re: Council forces closure of school dinners blog : Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:42 pm  

Big Graeme wrote:

So council workers should have to put up with headlines like "Time to sack the dinnerlady"?

Any worker should be able to go about their job without the fear of ridicule and persecution when a very narrow view of the facts is reported.

Mind it was a but heavy handed from A&B but they do have a duty to protect their employees.

Look at the photo that's ridicule enough. At the end of the day, people in government and local aithorities are responsible for making decisions that allow that to be served up. They should ALL be ridiculed and hounded out of office. It's disgusting and those same people will be wasting money on nonsense like awarding schools (probably including that one! a "healthy eating award" and also hectoring the public about their poor eating habits that costs the NHS billions....

What all these idiots lack is an ounce of decency and common-sense.

Re: Council forces closure of school dinners blog : Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:42 pm  

Big Graeme wrote: ... They have plenty of choices, I've witnessed first hand an A&B lunch service and the blog was in no way a reflection on what they do. I was meaning more the question of when was it decided that children should have a vast range of choices. We didn't. And it is hardly a universal. http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/what-sch ... tries-arou http://karenlebillon.com/2012/05/04/lee ... f-annonay/ http://idlewords.com/2003/03/french_wee ... unches.htm http://grist.org/article/food-2010-10-1 ... as.twitter http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... d=tweetbut Vast amounts of choice is not necessarily a good thing. I suspect that the entire marketisation of everything in the UK, and the idea of pupils as 'customers', has meant that councils now believe that they have to offer loads of different food – and certainly what the blog did show was hardly what you'd call appetising, never mind particularly healthy.

Big Graeme wrote: ... They have plenty of choices, I've witnessed first hand an A&B lunch service and the blog was in no way a reflection on what they do. I was meaning more the question of when was it decided that children should have a vast range of choices. We didn't. And it is hardly a universal. http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/what-sch ... tries-arou http://karenlebillon.com/2012/05/04/lee ... f-annonay/ http://idlewords.com/2003/03/french_wee ... unches.htm http://grist.org/article/food-2010-10-1 ... as.twitter http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... d=tweetbut Vast amounts of choice is not necessarily a good thing. I suspect that the entire marketisation of everything in the UK, and the idea of pupils as 'customers', has meant that councils now believe that they have to offer loads of different food – and certainly what the blog did show was hardly what you'd call appetising, never mind particularly healthy.

Re: Council forces closure of school dinners blog : Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:46 pm  

Dally wrote: Look at the photo that's ridicule enough... Oh, I think we should start with you and yet another illiterate sentence. But then if we did, you'd doubtless whinge and whine about 'bullying'. Dally wrote: ... They should ALL be ridiculed and hounded out of office... Oh – so you actually WANT to bully some people. Dally the two-faced, eh – who'd a thunk it? Dally wrote: What all these idiots lack is an ounce of decency and common-sense. Here's something for you.

Dally wrote: Look at the photo that's ridicule enough... Oh, I think we should start with you and yet another illiterate sentence. But then if we did, you'd doubtless whinge and whine about 'bullying'. Dally wrote: ... They should ALL be ridiculed and hounded out of office... Oh – so you actually WANT to bully some people. Dally the two-faced, eh – who'd a thunk it? Dally wrote: What all these idiots lack is an ounce of decency and common-sense. Here's something for you.

Re: Council forces closure of school dinners blog : Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:48 pm  

As I guessed: http://www.ljc.ea.argyll-bute.sch.uk/in ... y-hub.html Compare the tick-box, image over substance fantasy with the kids picture. Odd isn't it?

As I guessed: http://www.ljc.ea.argyll-bute.sch.uk/in ... y-hub.html Compare the tick-box, image over substance fantasy with the kids picture. Odd isn't it?

Re: Council forces closure of school dinners blog : Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:59 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Oh – so you actually WANT to bully some people. Dally the two-faced, eh – who'd a thunk it?

I do not whinge about bullying, just point out that it happens on here and usually derives from those who like to think of themselves as good little liberal minded souls.

But, yes people in public office who self-serve and waste resources on a grand scale with daft schemes should be removed from office either through the ballot box or, where they have executive office, by other means. Why should the public, who elect and pay them to provide a real service, be subjected to such contempt? It's corrupt and farcical. Trouble is most people haven't got the guts to stand up to them and expose them for what they are.

That reminds me, must get back to emailing our highways department over the pointless and hideous road signs they erected recently, have already had to fix twice due to my mocking them, etc and this week, since my last correspondence, have even re-sited one (in a more practical but even more pointless place). £3,000, if I recall, they wasted putting them up and about once a fortnight they have to get the contractors back after I have pointed out their deficiencies. Good to see public money being wisely spent when there are old folks needing care. But, hey, that's a different budget isn't it? That, of course, makes it alright.

Re: Council forces closure of school dinners blog : Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:09 pm  

Dally wrote:

I do not whinge about bullying, just point out that it happens on here ...

What you "point out" is that you do not understand what you're waffling on about.

But it's good to know you want to 'ridicule and hound' people out of their jobs.

Bully.

Re: Council forces closure of school dinners blog : Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:26 pm  

ban has been lifted, and Dally is a tw@, that's not bullying, THAT IS FACT.