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Re: DR Breach? : Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:35 pm  
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Woods has exploded £100K damage in Whitehaven !

You can't do that much damage in Whitehaven.

Dave Woods does not know the facts and should shut up!

I would also like to say well done to Carl Hall and his team. :thumb:
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Re: DR Breach? : Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:13 pm  
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This also means that we can finish third by winning both our remaining matches and get more dosh.
And also avoid Leigh.
PS we can finish second, but I can't see it happening.


You can finish third - but you get the same dosh.
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Re: DR Breach? : Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:13 pm  
Agree with S/O - well done to Carl and everyone at the club for seeing this one through.

We can certainly watch the last two matches in a different light now we know we've got the three points back.

It would be interesting to know why the RFL imposed the deduction in the first place if all the facts were known to them at that time. I'll look forward to the RFL's explanation.
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Re: DR Breach? : Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:18 pm  
RFL in common sense shock!, wonders will never cease. COYD
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Re: DR Breach? : Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:20 pm  
Here's a quote from the RFL official website:

An Operational Rules Appeals Tribunal has granted the appeals by Batley Bulldogs and Doncaster against the points deductions imposed for breaches of the sport’s rules relating to dual registration.

The clubs were each deducted three competition points at an independent tribunal held on Friday August 15 when they were both found guilty of fielding an ineligible player in Kingstone Press Championship fixtures played on Sunday July 27.

After being presented with fresh evidence relating to previous historical breaches of Operational Rules by other clubs which had not faced similar sanctions, the Appeals Tribunal sitting at Red Hall this afternoon overturned the points deductions.


This seems to suggest we are still guilty but the penalty has been rescinded because previous breaches of a similar kind hadn't resulted in points being deducted.
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Re: DR Breach? : Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:13 pm  
In all forms of tribunal and appeal what is looked at is that those bringing the disciplinary action have followed to the letter the rules that are laid out by themselves or in other cases the senior governing party.
In nearly all cases of appeal any outcome that is overturned will be on the following.

1) any error within the process leading to tribunal, i.e. not following exact protocol or timescales.

2) where precedent has been set i.e another outcome has been given other than those that are laid out within the process.

This where people get confused with Court Law versus HR / Best Practice Laws as each case whilst taken on merit has to be judged within same parameters.

Thus the RFL's description within the laws on DR is actually well described, outlined and issued to all parties, it has been the RFL's setting precedent on not penalising a team previously that seemingly has fallen into the above.

Not knowing all the facts we may well have had other points to raise - but in most incidents like this it is much easier to challenge and win on the grounds of inconsistency as it suggests prejudice / favouritism.

Hence if you ever face an issue at work you just need to hope that at some point that those in charge fail to follow exact structure.

Simples!!!!

whatever the reasons the Club have done extremely well in being confident to pursue..
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Re: DR Breach? : Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:06 pm  
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Woods has exploded £100K damage in Whitehaven !



He sat down...
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Re: DR Breach? : Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:55 pm  
no response from Mr Churchill yet,wonder why? :lol:
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Re: DR Breach? : Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:01 pm  
Very pleasing outcome and I will mirror the RL in common sense decision shocker
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Re: DR Breach? : Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:57 pm  
Now then wrote:
He sat down...

on a drawing pin :lol:
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