Shaun Wane - Best coach in our history? : Sun May 25, 2014 1:30 pm  

People may laugh, but for me he is definitely right up there. You automatically look back to our "Glory Years". I'm taking nothing away from them but the likes of John Monie and Graham Lowe had unlimited cash to spend in that era. No salary cap to mess about with either.

Graeme West was another but he took over the best team in the world and probably the best wigan team from any era.

The work Shaun Wane has done has been nothing short of unbelievable. Even putting the double to one side, when has a wigan coach brought through so many good young kids? He's fearless with it. The club seems in the best hands it's ever been in. How good is it to see 20 year old wigan lads running riot?

And let's be honest, the wigan team of the last couple of seasons has hardly been filled with 'superstars' but no wigan teams have ever wanted success this much and that is all down to Shaun Wane. Every single team in super league would swap their coach for him.

It'll be one sad, sad day when he leaves this club

Re: Shaun Wane - Best coach in our history? : Sun May 25, 2014 2:32 pm  

when you compare the situation of Wane to other successful coaches you would have to agree that he is probably the best.

Re: Shaun Wane - Best coach in our history? : Sun May 25, 2014 2:39 pm  

Millward?

Seriously, Lowe revolutionalised the club into a professional (attitude, not working hours) outfit and we were years ahead of the rest. Ok we spent big but so did other teams (Leeds, Widnes) in that era.

Re: Shaun Wane - Best coach in our history? : Sun May 25, 2014 2:50 pm  

Meyt N Prater Pie wrote:

People may laugh, but for me he is definitely right up there. You automatically look back to our "Glory Years". I'm taking nothing away from them but the likes of John Monie and Graham Lowe had unlimited cash to spend in that era. No salary cap to mess about with either.

Graeme West was another but he took over the best team in the world and probably the best wigan team from any era.

The work Shaun Wane has done has been nothing short of unbelievable. Even putting the double to one side, when has a wigan coach brought through so many good young kids? He's fearless with it. The club seems in the best hands it's ever been in. How good is it to see 20 year old wigan lads running riot?

And let's be honest, the wigan team of the last couple of seasons has hardly been filled with 'superstars' but no wigan teams have ever wanted success this much and that is all down to Shaun Wane. Every single team in super league would swap their coach for him.

It'll be one sad, sad day when he leaves this club

I think you're underselling the Maguire influence.

Don't get me wrong, Wane has been excellent, but Maguire came in and changed the culture of the club. He gave Wane the blueprint and Shaun has added his experience with the Academy into the mix.

Re: Shaun Wane - Best coach in our history? : Sun May 25, 2014 2:53 pm  

When I read the thread title I thought "wow, that is a brave statement". Then I thought about it for a moment and what the team has achieved, the players he has brought through, how he has managed big changes in personnel every year and it seemed a reasonable view to hold. He's done a great job and I'm sure he'd do we'll in Oz, particularly with a big club with a proud history and strong culture like Wigan. Not that I want him to go though! He's the best coach in SL.

Re: Shaun Wane - Best coach in our history? : Sun May 25, 2014 2:54 pm  

I like Wane and was one of the few defending him on here when many were slagging him off. However I dont think you can underestimate how good a coach Maguire was and how instrumental he was\is to the success today. Maguire totally changed the club off the field and on it and most of this work still exists today. Wane has built on this but without Maguire before him and the systems, structures and culture he put in place would Wane have had the success he is having now? I'd equate Maguire to Lowe who came in changed everything and got the ball rolling. Wane for me is a bit like Monie who has built on what was already there.

Re: Shaun Wane - Best coach in our history? : Sun May 25, 2014 2:54 pm  

P-J wrote:

I think you're underselling the Maguire influence.

Don't get me wrong, Wane has been excellent, but Maguire came in and changed the culture of the club. He gave Wane the blueprint and Shaun has added his experience with the Academy into the mix.

Honestly nobody apart from the players would know how much Shaun Wane added to the change in culture, but even now the culture has changed from Madge's time. I would say overall we are stronger than when we was under madge and thats with a team not full of superstars.

Re: Shaun Wane - Best coach in our history? : Sun May 25, 2014 2:58 pm  

P-J wrote:

I think you're underselling the Maguire influence.

Don't get me wrong, Wane has been excellent, but Maguire came in and changed the culture of the club. He gave Wane the blueprint and Shaun has added his experience with the Academy into the mix.

Maguire was excellent but again, his team was far stronger than Wanes. Look at the players Shaun wane has lost. The list is endless. I also think the rugby we player under Shaun wane is far better. In maguires second season we were dull

Re: Shaun Wane - Best coach in our history? : Sun May 25, 2014 3:02 pm  

For all the excellent work that he did, we must not forget that Maguire had Lima, Hoffman and Finch drop into his lap... That would have helped a little..

Re: Shaun Wane - Best coach in our history? : Sun May 25, 2014 3:09 pm  

Wigan Peer wrote:

For all the excellent work that he did, we must not forget that Maguire had Lima, Hoffman and Finch drop into his lap... That would have helped a little..

Maguire won the Grand Final in 2010 in his first season without any of those players. He basically took the same team that had been average for years and turned them into champions, transforming the whole club in the process.