Re: Half back slagging off : Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:20 pm  

HFC Boy wrote:

Last night was brilliant . It is always great to win a derby . The nilling was extra special .
We can bask in the glory for now .
In the context of SL both sides are way off breaking into the top 4 .
Last night was a " City of Hull " RL Cup final . For SL it was a lower league clash that even Sky ignored.
Bragging rights are ours for now . I will enjoy it .
Then I look at the league table and see the real picture.
I apologise if being a realist is deemed by many on here as being negative .
12th place is not acceptable . Do you all think the players and Coaching staff think it is ? No !!
They would echo my sentiments .
As I say , sorry to upset people with my opinion. l love Hull FC with a passion and I will not accept this seasons mediocrity .
Last night was fantastic within the City limits of Hull .
Outside of those boundries in the SL 2014 had been unacceptable

This I agree with.

Fantastic win on Friday but Rovers were poor and we have being poor throughout the majority of the season, which probably made our performance look better then it actually was. Rovers are also a team outside the play offs, so when you put that into context it was no real mean feat.

A lot of work in pre season has to be done.

Re: Half back slagging off : Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:44 pm  

pmarrow wrote:

This I agree with.

Fantastic win on Friday but Rovers were poor and we have being poor throughout the majority of the season, which probably made our performance look better then it actually was. Rovers are also a team outside the play offs, so when you put that into context it was no real mean feat.

A lot of work in pre season has to be done.

Not taking anything away from your performance as you dominated us in defence but i left happier with the score than I should because that could and should have been a 50+ drubbing. We played worse than we did against Cas and they ran in 11 tries, only Sneyds goal kicking that day stopped it being a bigger rout.

The state of both teams this year has been a crying shame for The RL supporting fans of this city.

Re: Half back slagging off : Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:44 am  

barham red wrote:

Not taking anything away from your performance as you dominated us in defence but i left happier with the score than I should because that could and should have been a 50+ drubbing. We played worse than we did against Cas and they ran in 11 tries, only Sneyds goal kicking that day stopped it being a bigger rout.

The state of both teams this year has been a crying shame for The RL supporting fans of this city.

WOW being able to turn a hammering and becoming the first kr team to be pointless in 50 years of derby games into a positive is some achievement.

Re: Half back slagging off : Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:32 am  

dayvoz wrote:

WOW being able to turn a hammering and becoming the first kr team to be pointless in 50 years of derby games into a positive is some achievement.

Trust me there was no positives to be taken, only stating it could and should have been much much worse, which is a reflection of how bad we were and how impotent your attack was. Sad thing is we'll probably play well at the weekend, it seems a trait we all seem to recognise.

Re: Half back slagging off : Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:07 am  

barham red wrote:

Trust me there was no positives to be taken, only stating it could and should have been much much worse, which is a reflection of how bad we were and how impotent your attack was. Sad thing is we'll probably play well at the weekend, it seems a trait we all seem to recognise.

Ah get it now have a dig at us to make your self feel better and a dig at our new scrum to boot,

Re: Half back slagging off : Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:25 am  

dayvoz wrote:

Ah get it now have a dig at us to make your self feel better and a dig at our new scrum to boot,

Wasn't a dig at Sneyd at all, he just had an off day with the boot the day cas played us, think he missed 7, the rest of his game was spot on, not sure of his stats that day but they will have been impressive as were most of the squad. As for the dig at you answer this, did you think your attack was good on Friday or for that matter for 90% of this season?

Re: Half back slagging off : Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:11 pm  

barham red wrote:

Wasn't a dig at Sneyd at all, he just had an off day with the boot the day cas played us, think he missed 7, the rest of his game was spot on, not sure of his stats that day but they will have been impressive as were most of the squad. As for the dig at you answer this, did you think your attack was good on Friday or for that matter for 90% of this season?

We are well aware our attack hasn't been great all season but we have still outscored your lot

Conditions for the 2 matches you compare were totally different. Both teams dropped plenty of ball on Friday.

Despite claims from Dobbins that there players weren't as committed as ours i certainly don't think they 'threw the towel in' like they appear to have done at Cas. Some of the Cas tries that sunny afternoon were down to really poor defensive efforts and lack of commitment. Similar to the ones Widnes got against you recently.

IF we could continue to defend like we did on Friday then i'm sure confidence in attack would increase and we would score more tries and points.

But for now we'll just enjoy a 28-NIL victory in which the opposition never really looked like scoring.

Re: Half back slagging off : Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:28 pm  

davey37 wrote:

IF we could continue to defend like we did on Friday then i'm sure confidence in attack would increase and we would score more tries and points.

I think that's a good point. Winning breeds confidence, regardless of how those wins come about, and when you are confident the attack tends to come a bit easier.

Fwiw I don't think our attack has been terrible this year. It hasn't been good enough but on a few occasions we have scored more than enough points to win but havnt had the defence to back it up. Its the defensive capitulations that have concerned me more.

Re: Half back slagging off : Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:04 pm  

The odd thing is we're 8th best for points scored, and 5th best for points conceded.

Re: Half back slagging off : Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:13 pm  

Confidence is the key here, when you think of the amount of games we should have won or thrown away at the end, it does takes it toll in the mindset of the team.

Where as a Wigan/Wire/Cas of this term would have kicked on from 18 points up. It was only around about 65-70 minutes in the game it actually felt like the team knew they were going to win. This really was one of them games where the win was far more important then the actually performance.

It became a game of not letting Rovers back into it rather then us killing them off. I think the atmosphere helped take the team home, us as supporters have probably lacked confidence this season too and that can rub off. Its along time since we've played at the KC and players and supporters have all being off the same hymn sheet. Every black and white in that stadium wanted a victory and nobody cared how it came, think it transpired in the way we played.