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Following on from this post ( viewtopic.php?f=71&t=573159&tsmp=1408463397&start=10#p17911817 ) in the Salford match thread, here is our brain storming of ideas for how to get Dragons to stop being so pants away from France...


There are a number of interesting points to make about our away form this season. I say interesting because they don't make particularly pleasant reading for the analysts that I am sure exist in an office somewhere under the Gilbert Brutus main stand.


Here is our away record. http://slstats.rlfans.com/index.php?typ ... howteam=44

In all matches both home and away we have a -16 points difference. That clouds the issue of defence though as away matches only sees that deficit grow to -151.

You can make allowances that most of that negative value came in only a few matches at Wakefield and Warrington, but even the most eternal optimist wouldn't look at the other results and say they were matches that could have gone either way.

Discounting Magic Weekend (even though it is listed as an away match) the only two league wins away from home have come against the relegated clubs.

Not good enough at all for a team looking to make an impact in the play offs.

As a full time analyst in my day job, I am always looking for trends and one that strikes me particularly here is that we don't have the correct mental strength to recover between away matches.

Let me explain. At the start of the season we were involved in that close encounter with Hull FC. A match that could have gone either way but that we lost by one score. We couldn't seem to put that behind us going to Castleford and Wakefield next on our travels and getting drubbed.

We then ran Wigan close, really close. But again the effect of losing a one score match scarred us and after the Magic weekend was the Wire horror show.

A game we should have won at Leeds has been followed by comprehensive defeats at Huddersfield and Salford and in my professional as well as sporting opinion, you would be a mug to heap much on us at the bookies for the final away match at Hull KR.

So in summary, there are still positives to build on. At a number of the big clubs we have gone close before coming up short. Any of those go the other way and we might be talking a different season.

Its how we react to losing close games, and by that I mean no toys out of the pram and carrying over that frustration onto the next referee, that will define how we do in this league in future.
Following on from this post ( viewtopic.php?f=71&t=573159&tsmp=1408463397&start=10#p17911817 ) in the Salford match thread, here is our brain storming of ideas for how to get Dragons to stop being so pants away from France...


There are a number of interesting points to make about our away form this season. I say interesting because they don't make particularly pleasant reading for the analysts that I am sure exist in an office somewhere under the Gilbert Brutus main stand.


Here is our away record. http://slstats.rlfans.com/index.php?typ ... howteam=44

In all matches both home and away we have a -16 points difference. That clouds the issue of defence though as away matches only sees that deficit grow to -151.

You can make allowances that most of that negative value came in only a few matches at Wakefield and Warrington, but even the most eternal optimist wouldn't look at the other results and say they were matches that could have gone either way.

Discounting Magic Weekend (even though it is listed as an away match) the only two league wins away from home have come against the relegated clubs.

Not good enough at all for a team looking to make an impact in the play offs.

As a full time analyst in my day job, I am always looking for trends and one that strikes me particularly here is that we don't have the correct mental strength to recover between away matches.

Let me explain. At the start of the season we were involved in that close encounter with Hull FC. A match that could have gone either way but that we lost by one score. We couldn't seem to put that behind us going to Castleford and Wakefield next on our travels and getting drubbed.

We then ran Wigan close, really close. But again the effect of losing a one score match scarred us and after the Magic weekend was the Wire horror show.

A game we should have won at Leeds has been followed by comprehensive defeats at Huddersfield and Salford and in my professional as well as sporting opinion, you would be a mug to heap much on us at the bookies for the final away match at Hull KR.

So in summary, there are still positives to build on. At a number of the big clubs we have gone close before coming up short. Any of those go the other way and we might be talking a different season.

Its how we react to losing close games, and by that I mean no toys out of the pram and carrying over that frustration onto the next referee, that will define how we do in this league in future.
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We just don't seem to have the attitude/mental toughness (you decide) to adapt to the different environment. For example, the other team makes a mistake and then makes up for it with a strong defense stint, whereas we just crumble and concede soft tries. The loss at Leeds was just comedy DVD material. I don't know what the answer is but it has plagued us since Trent's last few months.
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I don't think its the coach. I think its the players. There just seems to be a bit of meltdown when something goes against us.

It would be churlish to mention the Gallic shrug or anything else based on the perceived French mentality. It just seems that we blame the official and then battle him rather than the opponent.

EDIT - We are doing a bit of team building.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8glvyclu-Lw#t=134
I don't think its the coach. I think its the players. There just seems to be a bit of meltdown when something goes against us.

It would be churlish to mention the Gallic shrug or anything else based on the perceived French mentality. It just seems that we blame the official and then battle him rather than the opponent.

EDIT - We are doing a bit of team building.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8glvyclu-Lw#t=134
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Jimmythecuckoo wrote:
It would be churlish to mention the Gallic shrug or anything else based on the perceived French mentality. It just seems that we blame the official and then battle him rather than the opponent


I wouldnt base it on Nationality as such but I would say the french guys Like Bosc and Greg Mounis are the first generation of full time French pro's and they were brought from the local league. The Escares and Eloi's of this world are the next generation, coming into an already professional setup, so their mentality will hopefully be better.

Its been something which has dogged us from day one IMO and we bring it on ourselves.
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Scape goat number two for the season is Leon Pryce.

Fakir and Webb having already been ousted.

Wonder if this will work.

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