Re: Robbed : Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:15 am  

Backwoodsman wrote:

Moon was sent off, what more do you want, by and large most posters on here have agreed with the decision . I think on balance you deserved to win, if moon had not been sent off I think we would have won. So in effect we paid a heavy price for our misdemeanor. The tackle by Moon was poor technique and not malicious . Moon is not a dirty player, your coach Brown to his credit has acknowledged that fact.

Exactly.
If this match had not been on TV Moon would have probably not been sent off IMO.

Re: Robbed : Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:57 am  

Had a look at Sutcliffe's try again. Hohaia tries taking his head off with a swinging arm, fortunately he fails but must worst intent than Moon.

Re: Robbed : Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:11 am  

ThePrinter wrote:

Had a look at Sutcliffe's try again. Hohaia tries taking his head off with a swinging arm, fortunately he fails but must worst intent than Moon.

For me whether on the pitch or off it the punishment must reflect the action not the result. It appears more and more punishments are being (or planned to be with Careless Driving for example) meted out on the results.

Re: Robbed : Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:42 am  

nantwichexile wrote:

For me whether on the pitch or off it the punishment must reflect the action not the result. It appears more and more punishments are being (or planned to be with Careless Driving for example) meted out on the results.

Well like previously mentioned on the Moon incident I think it was that Percival stays down that leads him to go to the VR. Aiton gets up from Soliloa's so no big deal it seems.

Hohaia ends up swinging too high as Sutcliffe's diving for the try otherwise Sutcliffe could've been following Percival off the pitch. No attempt to properly tackle the player, just the hope that you make him drop the ball, similar to what Thurston tried on Hall in a Four Nations a few years back.

Re: Robbed : Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:43 am  

Moon's third man in, not really affecting the tackle. Percival comes through Bailey a bit more than he anticipated and the head goes into his shoulder. There's clearly no intent or malice - ergo yellow card absolute maximmum.

But if we're going to say that's a red then Soliola & McCarthy-Scarsbrook should both have walked for their late high shots which were clearly intentional and malicious.

That said, 'this sintellins team' managed lost the period they had a man advantage 12-11. With 13 on the park we would have been out of sight.

Hubcab champions they may be, but their season will end in the first two weeks of the playoffs.

Re: Robbed : Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:46 am  

Backwoodsman wrote:

Moon was sent off, what more do you want, by and large most posters on here have agreed with the decision . I think on balance you deserved to win, if moon had not been sent off I think we would have won. So in effect we paid a heavy price for our misdemeanor. The tackle by Moon was poor technique and not malicious . Moon is not a dirty player, your coach Brown to his credit has acknowledged that fact.

So what? I hate it when people try and hide behind this.

Re: Robbed : Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:28 am  

Considering it was 2 - 2 at the point of the sending off, there is no way to predetermine the outcome.

Saints ourselves have had a man sent off in the past and still gone on to win it with just 12 men.

Also we managed to win it at Saints this year, with many players missing as the young lads stepped it up.

Personally I think the GF is Leeds to lose. Most Saints fans gave up our chances of winning the GF about 2 seconds after losing Walsh for the season. Most teams operate with 2 decent halves. We went into this year with Walsh. I can't see us having the class to pass teams with 2 halves to our none. Lance can make the effort in a one off game, but over the course of 3 he will come undone as he is more a FB/Utility player.

It was a little distasteful the reaction to the sending off, more so the lack of effort to clap an injured player off the field. I thought that was something we all did regardless of the match or the team or the player injured,.

Re: Robbed : Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:41 am  

ryano wrote:

Not disputing the sending off but loads of the Saints fans round me on the WT were screaming for Baileys head at the time including some rather unsavoury racist "banter". They were that sure of what they had seen.

Yup for some reason, Bailey who was involved in a copy book low tackle was automatically presumed the villain by the Saints fan who were stood right in front of the action. Morons.

Re: Robbed : Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:08 am  

El Diablo wrote:

A poor decision cost us tonight.

It was the decision by Joel Moon not to use his arms in a tackle.

The other 16 players didn't deserve to lose.

dont you mean the other 14....

Re: Robbed : Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:35 am  

JP didn't think Moon should have been sent off http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/leeds-rhinos/leeds-rhinos-peacock-picks-holes-in-moon-s-red-card-evidence-1-6814963

JP didn't think Moon should have been sent off http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/leeds-rhinos/leeds-rhinos-peacock-picks-holes-in-moon-s-red-card-evidence-1-6814963