Re: Tonights game vs Huddersfield : Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:22 am  

ninearches wrote:

Is Roy injured or is he being rested to steer us through to Old Trafford ?

Hopefully neither

Re: Tonights game vs Huddersfield : Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:25 am  

morleys_deckchair wrote:

i think there are 2 types.

type 1 - Doesnt want the ball as he doesn't like getting smashed, so his colleagues have to pickup his slack.
type 2 - Goes round putting in sly digs and giving it the big man, then hides behind his team mates when the going gets a bit rough.

I would agree but if they were to display those dis-attributes in more than the odd bad game then I would guess they wouldn’t last long in any SL side, and what’s more they should never have been there in the first place!

Re: Tonights game vs Huddersfield : Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:44 am  

Ratchford and Bridge have to play in the halves if we are going to win another game this year...and its a big IF.

Soft defence + poor half backs = no more wins this year.

Lots of work to do with this team to get us anywhere near Old Trafford and Wembley again....and we need a few more players. Another decent prop, a fast winger and a proper, creative scrum half who can organise and shout at people. Maybe another 2nd rower as well.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Tonights game vs Huddersfield : Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:52 am  

Wirefan wrote:

Despite recent improvements it is clear that England is not good enough for us. Wood is not good enough nowadays either and Gareth O'Brien is too predictable for a half back and again is not good enough.

You're way off on England wirefan, after a shakey start(which can be attributed to the whole team) England has been nothing short of fantastic considering its his first season in SL, he's a work in progress granted, last night he was quiet, but he was quiet by the standards he has set so far this year, definitely one to keep an eye on.

Re: Tonights game vs Huddersfield : Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:16 am  

I have a lot of time for England, he's improved a lot this year and I think there's plenty still to come.

As for O'Brien/Myler, one thing I've noticed is that O'Brien seems to get targetted much more than Myler, to the extent where is quite often caught in posession. Now, is this because he is not fast enough of thought/foot, his positional sense or awareness of what is going on is wrong or simply that he is perceived by the opposition as much of a threat?

I don't know, but he was one of our better last night, his kicking game was bob on, he took his try very well, his kick for Atkins was excellent and one or two misreads aside, he looked assured at this level. We certainly need to bring another dominant HB in but I am firmly of the belief that it is Gareth, not Myler, who should be partnering them.

Re: Tonights game vs Huddersfield : Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:57 am  

Oxford Exile wrote:

Ratchford and Bridge have to play in the halves if we are going to win another game this year...and its a big IF.

Soft defence + poor half backs = no more wins this year.

Lots of work to do with this team to get us anywhere near Old Trafford and Wembley again....and we need a few more players. Another decent prop, a fast winger and a proper, creative scrum half who can organise and shout at people. Maybe another 2nd rower as well.

Couldn't agree more - May win first play off game against whoever finishes 7th as we'll be 6th, and that's that.

People say front row will be good next year, pointless having a dominant front row without a decent half back to take advantage - Would go as far a needing a centre too.

Plus would help if we are on full salary cap because surely we can't be now given the high profile departures of last year

Re: Tonights game vs Huddersfield : Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:10 pm  

morleys_deckchair wrote:

i think there are 2 types.

type 1 - Doesnt want the ball as he doesn't like getting smashed, so his colleagues have to pickup his slack.
type 2 - Goes round putting in sly digs and giving it the big man, then hides behind his team mates when the going gets a bit rough.

Perfect description of Ryan Bailey.

Re: Tonights game vs Huddersfield : Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:15 pm  

Myler was dreadful last night - how he gets a run is beyond me. Offers nothing in attack other then slowing it down. Someone mentioned his broken field play - it was non-existent compared to how he used to play.
His kicking game was a disgrace.

The only plus point was his defence - and that was found wanting on Broughton's try.

Get rid.

Re: Tonights game vs Huddersfield : Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:28 pm  

Gaz_E wrote:

Myler was dreadful last night - how he gets a run is beyond me. Offers nothing in attack other then slowing it down. Someone mentioned his broken field play - it was non-existent compared to how he used to play.
His kicking game was a disgrace.

The only plus point was his defence - and that was found wanting on Broughton's try.

Get rid.

makes you realise just how good Briers was...because with a top quality, creative half back...Myler is actually quite good...as a support player.

If you are relying on him to get you around the pitch and call the plays...forget it.

And GOB isn't 'that' player for me...he has a decent, developing rugby brain and has a decent kicking game....but he's no where near quick enough and isn't sufficiently experienced to make the right calls during a game. It might come for him over time.... but he's got a quarter of what Briers had ....at a similar age.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Tonights game vs Huddersfield : Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:34 pm  

Just a side thought, how come we didn't have the send offs and good byes for the players leaving last night, what with it being the last actual home game.

They normally do it then, not taking into account the possibility of play off games.