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Re: Leeds vs Cas final : Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:16 pm  
Our success over the last ten years has been built on a team ethic. If Kirke wasn't adding something to that, he'd be gone.
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Re: Leeds vs Cas final : Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:58 pm  
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Our success over the last ten years has been built on a team ethic. If Kirke wasn't adding something to that, he'd be gone.

I've always said that...why would the coaches pick him otherwise...they know better than most of us.
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Re: Leeds vs Cas final : Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:57 pm  
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Also in regards on the subs, I've not really heard anyone mention him but I thought Aiton's work for the 2nd Hall try was very good.



Oh its been mentioned........... :D
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Re: Leeds vs Cas final : Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:16 pm  
in a salary capped sport each team has to have it's Kirkes. The problems come when they get ideas above their station, Kirke has never gone down that route.
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Re: Leeds vs Cas final : Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:30 pm  
He's got a drawer full of rings and medals and he seems on good terms with the rest of the players.He really had no need to look sheepish when he held the cup
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Re: Leeds vs Cas final : Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:19 pm  
To think about Kirke another way, he'll probably go down in history as the best ever career squad player. He's achieved more winners medals than the likes of Mike Bennett (Saints), Ricky Bibey etc, and he's outlasted the likes of Chris Feather, Simon Worrall, Liam Botham, Wayne MacDonald etc in this golden period of Leeds history.

It's a shame he does not seem to impose himself on the game as much as he used to - remember his heroic efforts chasing down wingers in the past? I suspect the low work rate on attack comes down to tactical reasons - Leeds have limited possession and we want our most dangerous players to have the ball in hand more often. Kirke offers more safety than someone like Achurch in this respect. He's played in countless big games before, knows the players and structures, and won't let us down on the whole. His selection is more of an indictment of the contributions of the likes of Achurch, Ward and Clarkson so far this season IMO, who have all failed to cement regular spots in the first 17.
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Re: Leeds vs Cas final : Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:35 pm  
Kirke is dependable - he knows his limitations and doesn't try to play beyond them which means he rarely fekks-up.

Considering his job is to make the numbers up while JP or Kylie grab a breather, he does it well. He has a reasonable defence and a not so reasonable attack which means his influence on a game is neutral. We have a bench player that doesn't swing the balance either way, so if we're winning BMcD can bring JP off, stick Kirke out there in his place, safe in the knowledge that he'll hold the fort until JP is ready to come back on.

His job is similar to the 'seat fillers' they have at the Oscars that drop into a vacant seat whenever a celeb is collecting an award so that there are no gaps in the audience.
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Re: Leeds vs Cas final : Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:37 pm  
Someone must have had a word with Kirke hes talking a bit more upbeat in todays YEP ,He wants a WCC winners medal.Good for him
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Re: Leeds vs Cas final : Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:05 pm  
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Someone must have had a word with Kirke hes talking a bit more upbeat in todays YEP , He wants a WCC winners medal. Good for him



He is a bit like the Daryl Powell of his day :D
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Re: Leeds vs Cas final : Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:24 am  
DA-Sorry mate Kirke never will be the "Daryl Powell" of his day either skill wise or effectiveness.
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