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Re: Robert Hicks : Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:03 am  
It's not right we get him so often. The appointment of referees need to be more transparent and logical - IE if there are 8 refs - we should get an equal proportion of appointments spread over the eight?

What particularly annoys me about Hicks (for both sides) - he often actually misses incidents or he is not watching the play - and when he is in doubt - its a penalty against the defending team. He gave pens yesterday for incidents he was clearly not looking at - drives me round the twist :x
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Re: Robert Hicks : Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:04 am  
Incidentally, the rule about the wind also applies to passing the ball, so long as the ball is initially passed backwards it is OK, many of those shouts of "forward", were therefore also totally wrong.

If I have any real complaint against Hicks it was his application, or non application, of the offside law. He allowed both sides to encroach far too much at the ptb for my liking.
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Re: Robert Hicks : Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:28 am  
Hicks has refereed Bradford 9 times this season in 24 SL games. That is more than any referee has taken control of any team, next is Thaler and Widnes (7 times).
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Re: Robert Hicks : Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:11 am  
There were a few odd looking decisions yesterday but nothing that I thought was that bad. The only annoyance was the non policing of the 10m rule at the PTB and the slowness of the PTB for both sides. It made for a very slow game at times with both teams messing about deliberately. I know it’s hard for a ref to simultaneously keep an eye on the PTB and the offside but just about every PTB had someone offside.

The sooner we adopt the dual ref system they have in the NRL the better. Their PTB is much cleaner leading to quicker games and less cynical play in that area. I don’t know if we have enough refs but if not then there should be a recruitment drive and some money put in to develop and support them so they can do the job better.
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Re: Robert Hicks : Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:23 am  
His appreciation of the rules of the game are inconsistent at best but the performance of the touch judges was even worse. I don't understand what their roles are currently?hull's last try should have been chalked off due to sa's obvious infringement against the defending Adam o'brien. To change and maintain a running line whilst putting yr shoulder against the defender is against the rules and how the touch judge was unaware when he was stood right beside them is embarrassing for our game. Hicks control of the ten metre line is pitiful, he was constantly gesturing for both teams line to come back the full ten with both teams ignoring him to very little consequence. He needs to man up and make a call for repeated infringements, for the repeated failure of the team not making the defensive ten every tackle he should penalise twice then look at putting someone in the sin bin, potentially the captain, will make teams understand the impact of being consistently offside.
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Re: Robert Hicks : Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:59 pm  
This has to be some sort of record? Get the changing rooms flooded Jimmy
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Re: Robert Hicks : Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:24 am  
Laws wrote:
Offences incurring penalties – kicker
6. A player who kicks off or drops-out shall be penalised if he:–
...(c) kicks the ball so that it fails to travel at least ten metres forward in the field of play.

– other players
7. Any other player shall be penalised if he:–
(a) willfully touches the ball from a kick off or dropout before it has travelled ten metres forward in the field of play.


So, all the ball has to do is achieve 10 metres forward travel in the field of play. It doesn't have to land. And if it did have to land then it would be illegal to catch a kickoff (you'd have to wait for it to land first) and that would be really stupid.

Second, a defender can't deliberately touch it before it has travelled the 10, or that's a pen. too.
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Re: Robert Hicks : Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:26 am  
Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:
Are we still going to have this chump dumped on us every week in the Championship?


The refs in the Championship are way worse than him - Stokes , Turley etc and Jamie Bloem refs at the Championship level he has officiated Fax Games....
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Re: Robert Hicks : Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:07 am  
Faxfan1999 wrote:
The refs in the Championship are way worse than him - Stokes , Turley etc and Jamie Bloem refs at the Championship level he has officiated Fax Games....


Yeh, every official in the country is unmitigated shiit, and you're the expert, OK we get it.

Speaking to fans at games I believe most fans actually do appreciate that overall the officials do a very difficult job pretty well, but it is certainly true that these sort of internet forums attract a constant stream of hyperbolic whingers. It's the modern day equivalent of the radio phone in, they always just attract loud-mouthed pontificating spittle-dribblers and ignorasnt morons who would abuse an official whatever he did.

Rational discussion and criticism of specific instances and decisions is fine, and i am not trying to suggest refs aren't up for discussion, quite the contrary, everything is, but what I query is the huge disproportion in the heads of some who simply obsess about the officiating in games, and probably get so wound up about it, they don't actually wacth much of the game itself at all, as they're too busy raising their blood pressure to near explosion point, griping at what they see as the inevitable procession of ref howlers, and all 9of course) against their team.

On forums for a few leaping in to slather the ref is all they can't wait to do. Do they watch the whole game like that? Don't they actually want to talk about the play, their team, how it performed, what they did?

But it is really ridiculous to (for example) accuse, say, Silverwood or indeed young Hicks of being a rubbish ref. The guys have reached the top level, refereed thousands of hours to get there, and have the respect of most fans and players. To say a ref made a mistake, or didn't allegedly police the 10 properly is one thing. To say he is crap is just pissmatical nonsense.

As for lower league refs - like in any job where there are progressively harder jobs, how else do you suggest refs cut their teeth - on a fscking Playstation?
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Re: Robert Hicks : Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:27 am  
TBF FA Faxfan doesn't claim to be an expert. I've a few friends that follow teams in the Championship and Championship 1 who say that officials at those levels do get more things wrong than at SL level. This wasn't expressed in any kind of rant or anything, just a sober opionion based on watching rugby at different levels.

We both know it's a difficult, thankless task.
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