Re: Upping the Ante! : Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:37 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

Ok say who's stitched him up?
If Sir Rodney said: “At the moment the club has decided they would rather see the refurbishment of Belle Vue rather than wait for a new stadium at Newmarket..."
Then it would appear it is him if MC has not said that and does not think that.

I would say that is a reasonable interpretation to make

Re: Upping the Ante! : Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:46 pm  

jack in the box wrote:

This scheme of Sir Rodney has been around for several months. It is a non starter without ownership of BV and superbowl. there has been more than enough time to secure these if the scheme was genuine and so far this has not been done.

They wanna get a wiggle - I've been making enquiries of my own about Superbowl and the Gym; they're surprisingly affordable - much more so than my original estimate.

Re: Upping the Ante! : Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:52 am  

WHO'S FAULT IS IT?
Why wasn't a new ground wrote in the contract? Come on who is to blame?

Re: Upping the Ante! : Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:03 am  

jack in the box wrote:

Yes and in order to do that the stadium land has to go through planning in order to have its use changed and value increased.
Once that happens its the point of no return. Then if the money is not paid towards BV or the land of BV and superbowl are bought by someone else, there is no going back. We will then end up with nothing and poor old MC will get the blame for wanting to do this.

This scheme of Sir Rodney has been around for several months. It is a non starter without ownership of BV and superbowl. there has been more than enough time to secure these if the scheme was genuine and so far this has not been done.

I'm not having a go at you Jack, but who do you think has the funds to buy them ??, 'cos MC has clearly said that he hasn't !!

Re: Upping the Ante! : Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:42 am  

FIL wrote:

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I'm not having a go at you Jack, but who do you think has the funds to buy them ??, 'cos MC has clearly said that he hasn't !!

FIL, I know you weren't saying it was but it's not Michael Carter's responsibility to buy them. That responsibility lies with Yorkcourt if they chose to redevelop Belle Vue rather than develop a stadium at Newmarket.

Re: Upping the Ante! : Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:45 am  

newgroundb4cas wrote:

WHO'S FAULT IS IT?
Why wasn't a new ground wrote in the contract? Come on who is to blame?

You are always on here claiming to be a clever guy and right 99% of the time. All you have to do is read this thread and other Newmarket threads because it's all there. I'm sure a bright bloke like you will soon piece it together.

Re: Upping the Ante! : Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:48 am  

There's no accounting for dishonesty, so all this hindsight stuff is pointless.
Nobody enters into this kind of agreement expecting to be stiffed; although clearly that was the intention of the developer.
This has turned into a salvage operation, how de we get the most out of this situation for Wakefield Trinity.
Pressure by negative publicity, negotiation, appealing to the good will of the wrong doer; they'll all probably come into play but for now all the would be Perry Masons need to have a word.

Re: Upping the Ante! : Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:48 am  

newgroundb4cas wrote:

WHO'S FAULT IS IT?
Why wasn't a new ground wrote in the contract? Come on who is to blame?

It was, it's just that there are ways around the agreement, so whoever wrote and approved that. There obviously was never any intention from the developer to provide a new stadium so it's a moot point.

Re: Upping the Ante! : Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:50 am  

Sandal Cat wrote:

FIL, I know you weren't saying it was but it's not Michael Carter's responsibility to buy them. That responsibility lies with Yorkcourt if they chose to redevelop Belle Vue rather than develop a stadium at Newmarket.

Cheers SC, I was aware of that, but bearing in mind Yorkcourt's apparent position on this, I am of the opinion (along with many others on here !!) that we are likely to get diddly-squat out of them !!

Re: Upping the Ante! : Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:55 am  

Surely after the issue of that article, its time to crank up the pressure on the Council and Yorkcourt by getting all their dirty linen out in the public domain? It seems to me that based on the information on this thread, they have no intention to deliver what they promised, and so spending further time in "closed door" discussions with them would appear from the outside as a waste of valuable time and highly unlikely to produce the desired outcome.

I appreciate that I am not privy to the info that TRB and SandalCat have and am not having a go at them, but if we need to shame Box and Mackie into doing the right thing then so be it.