Re: Chris Annakin : Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:34 pm  

The last time we sent a player on long term loan was Mariano and didnt we have to pay a fee to Fev to get him back?
Would like to think that if we do have to recall either, no fee will be involved and we only have to give Fev decent notice.
But i thought we had a dual reg agreement with Fev?

Re: Chris Annakin : Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:38 pm  

I've always liked this kid and surprised he hasn't been picked for more games. The 5 game ban certainly didn't help his cause but I had hoped he would get a run out or two before the end of the season. Was hoping he'd nail down the loose forward role after doing so well breaking into the first team, alas it's just not worked out for the lad.

Re: Chris Annakin : Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:31 am  

If this is true which I don't know we are looking pretty decimated at this time. If we look at the situation as it stands we have confirmed the departures of

Mathers, Moore, Sykes and Wildie

Loan Players
Reilly, Keinhorst, Owen, Gilmore and Smith

Retired
Raleigh

On Loan?
Annakin & Troute

Out of Contract
Ali, Walshaw and Molloy

On the plus side we have signed three players but it still leaves us with another off season of change. I hope they have a few signings to announce or we are going to look pretty weak next season which will not help season ticket sales.

Re: Chris Annakin : Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:38 am  

Webster said he was planning on running with a squad of 25 or 26 with a couple of 17 year olds in.
I'm guessing there are still plenty to come in.

Re: Chris Annakin : Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:07 am  

A meaningful loan spell will probably sort out once and for all if Anakin has what it takes to make it in SL; I remain open-minded, because what I've seen of him hasn't been definitive - he appears willing, but hasn't made much of an impact on the games in which he's featured.

As for the last loan deal to Fev - I wouldn't worry about this one going the same way; Mariano was handled in a uniquely awful way by our previous CEO, unbeknown to the coach or the player, leaving him with little choice but to sign for Cas.

Re: Chris Annakin : Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:12 am  

The coach has decided that they do not yet meet the standard required re: Superleague.
The fact that they are home produced should not in any way colour judgement when assessing ability and potential.
If some people had had their way we would now be facing relegation after playing not yet up to standard home produced.
Remember these two are not being totally 'axed'.
It is now up to them to prove they have the ability and desire.
If they do both they will be back.
What would be the point of them stagnating ,getting little game time, as ridiculously, clubs do not run 2nd teams.
That is the real problem!

Re: Chris Annakin : Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:23 am  

milopolly wrote:

ridiculously, clubs do not run 2nd teams. That is the real problem!

I couldn't agree more - even though it would be a detriment to us, I think it was a mistake to let clubs decide not to run a 2nd team; it was a money saving exercise that will have a much greater cost in terms of player development. Not to mention that it leads to the ridiculous spectacle of Hunslet and Workington fielding international players on loan from SL clubs for rehab purposes, so it also buggers up the lower grade comp and blocks pathways for their own youngsters.

Potty decision in my view.

Re: Chris Annakin : Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:19 am  

Well that’s the last of the invincibles  gone , non are left from the year after , non from Ben Shulvers year , and only Tom Johnstone from this years ( not including the 17s) so what is the point of the academy , we obviously haven’t got the infrastructure to develop the talented youth players we recruit at 16. might as well use the  resources the scheme brings in to sign a quality first teamer ,

Re: Chris Annakin : Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:45 am  

victarmeldrew wrote:

Well that’s the last of the invincibles  gone , non are left from the year after , non from Ben Shulvers year , and only Tom Johnstone from this years ( not including the 17s) so what is the point of the academy , we obviously haven’t got the infrastructure to develop the talented youth players we recruit at 16. might as well use the  resources the scheme brings in to sign a quality first teamer ,

Indeed, there will always be an excuse as to why the club's juniors don't get a run of games. They will never improve if they dont get sufficient game time. Frankly, the fact Lee Gilmour is still in the squad over the likes of Annakin, Walshaw and Trout is a poor show. There is nothing to play for, no immediate danger facing the club. Sadlty the likes of Crowther and Jowitt will suffer the same fate in three to four years.

Re: Chris Annakin : Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:08 am  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

Sadlty the likes of Crowther and Jowitt will suffer the same fate in three to four years.

I'm less pessimistic - there have been changes at the youth level that won't start to filter through until the current crop of academy players are ready to start playing 1st team; I said at the time that we'd have to draw a line under what had happened before and hope that this new intake were properly handled, and I remain confident that they will be. We'll still suffer at the hands of predators (that's already happening to some of them) but I'm convinced that we'll see more of a measured introduction of youth products over the coming seasons.

If not, feel free to repost this and I'll join you in the glass half empty brigade.