Re: joke : Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:52 pm  

DoubleAone wrote:

What you should be giving RESPECT to at all times is the opposition. It takes two teams to make a game.

Glory Seeking Arrogant Myopic Fans should go watch Wigan IMHO

You dont buy a season ticket to demand victory every time. You pay to watch a game which always consists of 2 teams. HTH.

I think you can take the "how dare you expect Leeds to win every game you arrogant w*******r!" a little too far. I don't think it's arrogant to expect a pretty strong Leeds team (with a 22 point lead and 30 minutes to go) sitting 2nd in the table to finish off a mob who haven't posted a "W" in 23 league games.

Seriously, are you happy with that? Anyone in the top 6 can be competitive come playoff time and home advantage could be crucial. After dropping league points to Wakefield (a really awful performance) and Bradford we are now staring at 6th place if you factor in a post Wembley hangover (win or lose). The coach wasn't happy, I suspect he sees it pretty much the same way.

Re: joke : Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:07 pm  

I sometimes wonder on here how many posters have gone to games regularly over the years


Only wondering by the way , not saying you should not post

Re: joke : Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:20 pm  

ploinerrhino wrote:

i never said there was a difference between first or second all i said was he has made it harder to get to the Grand Final as he has we now will have to win the last 3 games instead of 2 out of 3 otherwise an away tie at Wigan or Warrington in all probability instead of a home tie to get to old trafford . I also said he would be judged on trophies won at the end of the day

When you say 'he' you mean McDermott alone yes? So I take it you are blaming him entirely for the loss yesterday because of his team selection?

You don't lay any of the blame at the feet of the players who had a healthy, and what should have been winning, lead and blew it??

Whether we are at home or away in the play-offs won't matter too much, especially this year with how little there are to choose between all the leading contenders. All I see is the coaching staff managing the squad the best they can to win BOTH trophies.

Re: joke : Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:41 pm  

A-Fire-Inside wrote:

When you say 'he' you mean McDermott alone yes? So I take it you are blaming him entirely for the loss yesterday because of his team selection?

You don't lay any of the blame at the feet of the players who had a healthy, and what should have been winning, lead and blew it??

Whether we are at home or away in the play-offs won't matter too much, especially this year with how little there are to choose between all the leading contenders. All I see is the coaching staff managing the squad the best they can to win BOTH trophies.

Really? I see them managing the squad the best they can to win the Challenge Cup.

Re: joke : Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:44 pm  

A-Fire-Inside wrote:

When you say 'he' you mean McDermott alone yes? So I take it you are blaming him entirely for the loss yesterday because of his team selection?

You don't lay any of the blame at the feet of the players who had a healthy, and what should have been winning, lead and blew it??

Whether we are at home or away in the play-offs won't matter too much, especially this year with how little there are to choose between all the leading contenders. All I see is the coaching staff managing the squad the best they can to win BOTH trophies.

And home/away *always* matters a lot in Rugby League, where there are huge swings on marginal referees' decisions and referees are influenced by vocal crowds. It matters *even more* if there is "little to choose between the leading contenders".

Re: joke : Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:11 pm  

craigizzard wrote:

Really? I see them managing the squad the best they can to win the Challenge Cup.

Yes, right now you do. That's because the final is on Saturday, in case you'd missed it.

And they shouldn't be doing this??

Re: joke : Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:18 pm  

craigizzard wrote:

And home/away *always* matters a lot in Rugby League, where there are huge swings on marginal referees' decisions and referees are influenced by vocal crowds. It matters *even more* if there is "little to choose between the leading contenders".

We did ok as the away team in 2011 and 2012 as I seem to recall. And went out in 2010 at home...

And weren't that far away last season, despite playing with a busted team. Which McDermott was roundly criticised for if I remember correctly.

This year, it seems as much as possible is being done to prevent that happening again. Result? People still not happy.

Re: joke : Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:23 pm  

southern_rhino wrote:

i actually think i prefer SLFans to this place... at least on that board you expect idiots and that.
ofc all teams have that, but my point youve decidied to be petty about, is still true. by the high standards the team set this year we shouldnt be dropping points against bulls and london.

I don't think I've been petty about any point you made.
I don't see why losing against Bradford and London makes the "danger" of winning nothing this year particularly any more likely. In fact it's more than likely given us a better chance of winning the Cup this year.
Yes it's made it less likely that we'll win the league leaders shield but that would be the case had we lost to Wigan and Warrington instead of Bradford and London. In terms of the league I'd far rather we lose to the bottom 2 than any of the top 6.
We should have won both games. But had we won them the "danger" of winning nothing this year would still be just as present and just as likely to happen.
If we win the LLS this season and nothing else I'd still, despite having a slight smug feeling for a couple of weeks, feel like the season was a bit disappointing.

Re: joke : Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:20 pm  

RhinoNeil wrote:

How is it a lot harder? You still have to beat the top dogs.

A couple of weeks ago on this forum I was spitting feathers at McDermott, my opinion on him hasn't changed, but I agree on his team selection against London.

As said it after the Bradford defeat and I'll say it again:

Leeds don't play with structure, we've had many people from our own camp saying this, the latest was McGuire in his YEP column last week. We're not like other clubs where its coached from the bottom and is installed in the first team. What we do have in the senior side is a team full of stars that play off the cuff rugby - because the talent is that good we can play like that. That is all well and good when we have a fully fit 17, but as soon as those stars start dropping out of the team, then what happens? You've not got the talent for off the cuff and you've no structure running through the club. You're snookered. Its bonkers. But that off the cuff rugby has won us titles.

Leeds didn't lose to Bradford or London because of the above - they lost because players didn't do the basics like catch the ball and tackle opponents. That has nothing to do with off the cuff attacking style.

Re: joke : Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:16 am  

How many of the team spent the night before in the flesh pots of London........