[Jemmo]

Re: DR Breach? : Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:35 pm  

And this is where the games begin; now we have a situation where Batley are essentially in the same position as if the game never happened, where as we are two points worse off

Re: DR Breach? : Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:54 pm  

you,ve been robbed here you gain a point and lose 3 batley win 3 and lose 3 so in theory you boys are 2pts worse off could make a difference in you finishing 4th or 5th

Re: DR Breach? : Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:12 pm  

Bad news but not unexpected.

But in fairness the clubs should have lost any points gained in the respective matches.

So in theory we have lost 2pts from another match where we didn't do anything wrong,
as we didn't even win that match in question

Re: DR Breach? : Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:19 pm  

Jemmo wrote:

And this is where the games begin; now we have a situation where Batley are essentially in the same position as if the game never happened, where as we are two points worse off

agree jemmo what a farce, whatever they did to Donny Batley should have got 2 points more.I fail to see how this decision is fair, where batley in effect have lost nothing while you are 2 points worse off

Re: DR Breach? : Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:43 pm  

My prediction with regards to what the RFL would do if the teams were found guilty was that Batley and Donny would have lost all points gained in the match in question, plus a further penalty on top.

I was expecting them to impose a six point deduction for Batley and four point deduction for us. I'm surprised at the three and three decision.

Personally, I would have deducted one point from the Dons, deducted three points from Batley, and given both clubs a fine suspended for 12 months, only payable if a further breach occurred.

I would award Sheffield three points as they lost the game against Batley. Did I really say that I'd give the Eagles something?

It seems rather odds that two clubs fell foul of the rules. I would like to know whether the RFL had reminded clubs of the position prior to transfer deadline day, and clarified any points the clubs may have had before that weekend's games.

I appreciate each club must take responsibility for their own actions but with the Dons appealing against the decision, I wonder if there is more to this than meets the eye?

Re: DR Breach? : Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:05 pm  

Agree with everyone - a very poorly thought out decision.

I concede it's difficult to award Sheffield the points - suppose they finish a point behind Dewsbury. They might validly claim that they might have beaten Batley had Fairbank not played, finished above Dewsbury and - crucially - earned a big wedge of extra funding for 2015.

On the other hand, give them the two points and Dewsbury might claim that Batley might have won anyway.

The loss of funding dwarfs the fines usually handed out for this sort of admin error in the past and it affects teams who haven't been at fault.

Agree that Batley have done really well out of it, though. No worse off than losing the game in the first place.

Re: DR Breach? : Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:07 pm  

Donny wrote:

We will also be appealing the decision according to the club website.

Risky. As they say on the investment adverts, points can go down as well as up.

[Jemmo]

Re: DR Breach? : Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:19 pm  

griff1998 wrote:

Risky. As they say on the investment adverts, points can go down as well as up.

I agree...part of me thinks we should take this on the chin and move on

Re: DR Breach? : Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:31 pm  

As far as the implications go for the league table, after our three point deduction, we're three points ahead of Dewsbury but have a worse points difference.

Dewsbury play Batley A, Keighley H, and Workington A.

We play Rochdale A, Halifax H, Batley H.

[Wanderer]

Re: DR Breach? : Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:09 pm  

Jemmo wrote:

I agree...part of me thinks we should take this on the chin and move on

Me too.

The RFL have once again proved that they move in mysterious ways in arriving at their conclusions and knowing them it'll probably go from bad to worse.

Leave it alone and concentrate on getting enough points to ensure we finish 4th (at worst).