[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: Salfords the so called good doctor : Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:49 pm  

John Gilbert Reds wrote:

What's wrong with that?

Where has MK ever said he wants to scrap the cap? I haven't seen it, would be happy for you to point me in the direction of an article or interview though.

We need to build the club from the top downwards. We finished bottom last season, we needed to become competitive and quickly. I think he's done fantastic to get us to that level in such a small space of time, there were some bumps along the way Brian Noble, Tim Smith etc but that's to be expected when such drastic wholesale changes are taking place. He's been very vocal on how he wants to produce the best youngsters and have the best academy facilities, but it's pointless doing all that if your first team are hanging around the bottom of Super League. If our first time can be challenging and even winning trophies, the best young talent are going to want to join Salford. At the moment they're not.

Lets not forget this season Theo Fages, Jordan Walne, Adam Walne (injured for last couple of months granted), Niall Evalds, Jason Walton and Marc Sneyd have all had fantastic seasons thus far and all have come through our academy. Add in Jordan Turner, Stefan Ratchford and Kalumn Watkins who are all plying their trade elsewhere after coming through our junior and academy system and it doesn't look as bad as some would have you believe.

No it's the people who disagree with him, but don't come back with any alternatives on how to progress the sport and clubs like Salford that are holding the sport back.

Yes, stick to horse racing Marwan becauase RL didn't need you. Salford would have just gone to the wall and last Fridays game would have been a one-sided white wash without MK's involvement. In comparison to last season our attendances are well-up and that's after a massive mid season slump that seen us without a win in 8 games.

Good points. Ateotd, folk are just vexed there's a new kid on the block with deep pockets and splashing the cash, I wouldn't worry, Warrington got much the same shrift too on Their ascent. Chairman isn't as gobby though mind, but with the warry ultra uber fans about he lets them take the slack.

Re: Salfords the so called good doctor : Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:34 am  

Personally don’t have a major problem with the Dr, sure his cash is welcome and he seems to have a passion for Rugby League. But like most other sugar daddies in Super league he should conform to the current rules within the RFL. If he doesn’t like them then by all means try to cajole and convince his counterparts by persuasion and reasoning, rather than appear to tantrum to get his own way. He has said he would defiantly smash the salary cap, which is wrong.
With regard to the good Dr term I understand it’s a racing moniker which has morphed from Mad Dr, to Lucky, to Good.

Re: Salfords the so called good doctor : Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:55 am  

Damo-Leeds wrote:

He's certainly done a lot more for this sport than you will ever do.

Sorry only just seen this. I've been at work.

He has done nothing of note, similar to Richard Branson.

"After several weeks of rumour and negotiation, Richard Branson's Virgin group has taken a majority shareholding in the London Broncos - with a promise to make them the best club in the world."

And of course he's done more than me, I'm not involved in the game at all. Nice try though. Served big style.

Re: Salfords the so called good doctor : Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:58 am  

TheButcher wrote:

Sorry, I didn't realise it was a dick-swinging contest.

If you want a decent comeback you should try and write something that Isn't the standard vomit on the subject. Personal opinion and dislike dressed-up as some kind of all-reaching reasoning we should all accept. Particularly if you are engaging Salford fans on the subject. It's fine to have a little hate club among your own group of peers where you can all slap each other on the back for like-minded opinion. For that is what it is. Salford fans are used to seeing personal dislike dressed-up as some kind of RL fact with regards to MK. But like it or not, we're best positioned to offer reasoned comment on the subject. If you want to continue to have Marwan the pantomime villain that's fine, I'm not going to change your mind, but I can quite comfortably say that most of what you say on the subject is dog turd.

Re: Salfords the so called good doctor : Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:05 pm  

Middleton_Loiner wrote:

Sorry only just seen this. I've been at work.

He has done nothing of note, similar to Richard Branson.

"After several weeks of rumour and negotiation, Richard Branson's Virgin group has taken a majority shareholding in the London Broncos - with a promise to make them the best club in the world."

And of course he's done more than me, I'm not involved in the game at all. Nice try though. Served big style.

Just because you work, that's no excuse for you not to get involved with the game like Richard Branson and Marwan Koukash have. They work too - what's your excuse?

Re: Salfords the so called good doctor : Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:37 pm  

Damo-Leeds wrote:

Just because you work, that's no excuse for you not to get involved with the game like Richard Branson and Marwan Koukash have. They work too - what's your excuse?

Been too busy trying to get people into jobs and contribute to society to invest my £900m Fortune into just one club. But if I ever do invest, I don't like the idea of this Salary Cap Gubbings! It would make me have to wait for and build success over time, rather than achieve it in my first season. The RFL is run by people who have no knowledge of the game and I think they need a rocket up their Harris's. But investing in a Club to give back to the game I love SO MUCH would be a Noble venture. Investing in Grass Roots is important to me. Yes, that's the Golden Ticket!

Re: Salfords the so called good doctor : Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:42 pm  

Damo-Leeds wrote:

Just because you work, that's no excuse for you not to get involved with the game like Richard Branson and Marwan Koukash have. They work too - what's your excuse?

....I don't want to be accused of bullying but you brought someone's work into the discussion.....


Isn't it a bit rich of you to lecture people about what they should do with their time outside of their working hours?

Re: Salfords the so called good doctor : Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:40 pm  

Some good words from Koukash here.....

"I'm big enough to admit I've made a few mistakes. I learned from my mistakes and I think the mistakes I've made will help me be a better chairman in the future.

Earlier in the season I was a novice. I really believed that you could just buy individuals and slot them into a team that can compete.

That's never going to happen because a team needs to gel, and possibly some of the players we had were not the right balance for the team."

..............

Can't argue that that's not a good honest realistic appraisal of himself and how the season has gone for Salford.

Re: Salfords the so called good doctor : Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:43 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Some good words from Koukash here.....

"I'm big enough to admit I've made a few mistakes. I learned from my mistakes and I think the mistakes I've made will help me be a better chairman in the future.

Earlier in the season I was a novice. I really believed that you could just buy individuals and slot them into a team that can compete.

That's never going to happen because a team needs to gel, and possibly some of the players we had were not the right balance for the team."

..............

Can't argue that that's not a good honest realistic appraisal of himself and how the season has gone for Salford.

Finally he realises. Let us hope he invests in the correct areas now.

Re: Salfords the so called good doctor : Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:49 pm  

I don't find him an easy character to warm to (his public persona, I have no idea what he's like really) and I would prefer him to get things done in the right places and not make damaging comments in the press.

But is he really "bad" for the game? If we have another team able to spend the full cap, and he can do it long term and bring financial security, maybe bigger crowds, and he's in it for the long term, then that can only be good for the sport. The sport needs outside investment. He brings that.

Salford's academy has never had a problem producing players. Keeping them has been the hard part, when bigger salaries and silverware come calling. If he can help them do that, so much the better.