Re: Spat my tea out.. : Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:00 am  

If Andrew Voss came even my wife would watch superleague.
She loved his commentaries during the world cup but hates Eddie & Stevo with a passion.
That is simply because of their commentary style since she doesn't know either of them from Adam.
Re O'Connor, I agree about his poor delivery & constant use of cliches.
I also consider Carney & Wells to be very good.
Clarke, really rated him as a player but now his bias really grates.
I think it's time for Eddie & Stevo to be put out to grass, in how many professions do you do the same job at the same level for over 30 years?
I think all commentary teams in all sports need to be refreshed far more frequently than currently occurs. Over time they tend to become parodies & caricatures of themselves.

Re: Spat my tea out.. : Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:16 am  

Just don't like the set-up of having around 5 voices talking during the match. You have Eddie, Stevo, Clarke, one other guest (McDermott, Rea, Cullen etc) and then Stuart Cummins, also we have sideline reporters.

I don't see this in any other sport, football on all channels and RL on the bbc just have the normal 2 man team which will jump to the studio guest once or twice a half for 30 secs.

Even if they got new guys in it'll still have a problem of being overloaded.

Re: Spat my tea out.. : Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:24 am  

OF-Vossy ,Rabbits and co are all top quality commentators as are their summerisers.

Re: Spat my tea out.. : Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:02 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Just don't like the set-up of having around 5 voices talking during the match. You have Eddie, Stevo, Clarke, one other guest (McDermott, Rea, Cullen etc) and then Stuart Cummins, also we have sideline reporters.

I don't see this in any other sport, football on all channels and RL on the bbc just have the normal 2 man team which will jump to the studio guest once or twice a half for 30 secs.

Even if they got new guys in it'll still have a problem of being overloaded.

You don't say.

Cot damn it's like piccadilly ciricus in that commentary box. What an earth are they thinking? Well what we need to do is pack as many clowns and co-commentators in as is humanly possible.

At first i thought having cummins in was OK, for explaining decisions and stuff. But he has all the charisma of a dried out dog turd and he ends up having little squabbles with eddie and stevo about technicalities.....or worse, we get even more over the top scrutiny on e-v-e-r-y single call in the game.........was there a fingertip in there?

Re: Spat my tea out.. : Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:40 pm  

Not sure what Cummins is there for, to be honest.

He's put in a very difficult position of sometimes having to be critical of former friends and colleagues, and on occasion tries to convince himself black is white just so he doesn't have to.

Stevo just contradicts everyone for the sake of causing an argument. Unlike Phil Gould though, his points are more often than not total nonsense. He has a set of cliches that get rolled out every game.

Time to show both the door, and take the fat-headed oaf O'Connor with them. He can come back when he can put a sentence together.

A commentary professional to replace Hemmings - Voss, Dave Woods, Bill Arthur

One summariser - rotate McDermott, Wells and Cullen

One presenter - Carney and the two summarisers who aren't doing commentary.

Re: Spat my tea out.. : Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:18 pm  

Yep. Got to say I really enjoyed the BBC commentary and presentation during the World Cup.

2, sometimes 3 commentators.
Chappers as host with some knowledgeable guests who can have a bit of a laugh but it's not like a discussion down the pub.

Re: Spat my tea out.. : Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:19 am  

Wigg'n wrote:

Yeah, he's almost as unbiased as Barrie McDermott who is even still involved with the Leeds club and allowed to commentate on their games.

I never LOL. Im more of a haha person but.

LOL

Re: Spat my tea out.. : Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:52 am  

I like Cummins being there. It does clear up things a lot sometimes. He does still get things wrong, but is much clearer and more knowledgeable than the other clowns with it.

Re: Spat my tea out.. : Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:03 am  

Im not sure what Clarke offers to be honest. His stats thing is massively under-cooked, he doesn’t have the time or the ability to convey the complex theories behind those stats so we just get relatively contextless numbers. He is massively biased but also will randomly decide something, keep pushing whatever that is even when is blatantly wrong, He seems to take himself very very seriously as well and comes off as a bit of a d1ck really.

Hemmings is past it, needs changing, not a great play caller. Stevo is fine when used right, his enthusiasm can be infectious and welcoming to new fans. Needs to be less controversial though.

Carney and Wells do a good job, Barrie Mac as well when he takes a step back from being a stereotype. Really like listening to Tony Rea as well, very positive and enthusiastic as well as knowledgeable. Paul Cullen is ok, just needs to stop swallowing a thesaurus before he goes on air

Re: Spat my tea out.. : Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:36 am  

One for the future is Big Eorl C

Listened to him on radio and TV always seems to be fair and very enthusiastic