Re: the new structure finalized. : Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:30 am  

FoxyDread wrote:

That's a bit simplistic, for years and years teams have struggled to get on a sound financial footing. Growth comes through success in all sports. If the top four of the Championship becomes a closed shop as I firmly believe it will it's very hard how the teams perceived to be failing in the Championship will grow their gates enough to compete financially.

This will kill any hope of realistic progression for all but two of the current Championship sides.

So thats 2 more than we currently have


Until Mrs Koucash buys Swinton

You like me has no idea exactly how this will ' pan out ', we'll just have to wait and see

Re: the new structure finalized. : Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:46 pm  

How will it grow the brand of super league by splitting half of the "elite" division and making them play small provincial part-time clubs.

It will totally devalue the Super League name.

If we took this year as example, how do you think Salford playing championship teams will pan out...a few 3 figure results or very close too me thinks

[Wheels]

Re: the new structure finalized. : Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:56 pm  

tenerifeRhino wrote:

If we took this year as example, how do you think Salford playing championship teams will pan out...a few 3 figure results or very close too me thinks

Against London, Bradford, Leigh and Halifax? I doubt it.

Re: the new structure finalized. : Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:38 pm  

tenerifeRhino wrote:

How will it grow the brand of super league by splitting half of the "elite" division and making them play small provincial part-time clubs.

It will totally devalue the Super League name.

If we took this year as example, how do you think Salford playing championship teams will pan out...a few 3 figure results or very close too me thinks

This has been an ongoing plot, supported by the weak unproductive M62 eternal failures, to drag our sport back to a part time nationwide structure.

Re: the new structure finalized. : Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:22 pm  

I understand the new system easily enough - I also understand that it's utter rubbish and a complete gimmick in its attempt to artificially create an 'every game means something' situation (sick of hearing this phrase thrown around). Regardless, as is the same with the current setup, at some point in the season there will be games that are irrelevant in terms of whether a team ends up in the top, middle or bottom 8.

Switzerland used the same system for about 15 years - they got rid of it because attendances, tv revenue and sponsorship were suffering so much. Once they got rid, average attendances were up almost 50%.

If we were going to bring back relegation it should have either simply been one up and one down or have a playoff style game between the bottom Super League team and the top Championship team with the winner being in Super League the following season.

Re: the new structure finalized. : Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:53 pm  

Adamjk wrote:

I understand the new system easily enough - I also understand that it's utter rubbish and a complete gimmick in its attempt to artificially create an 'every game means something' situation (sick of hearing this phrase thrown around). Regardless, as is the same with the current setup, at some point in the season there will be games that are irrelevant in terms of whether a team ends up in the top, middle or bottom 8.

Switzerland used the same system for about 15 years - they got rid of it because attendances, tv revenue and sponsorship were suffering so much. Once they got rid, average attendances were up almost 50%.

If we were going to bring back relegation it should have either simply been one up and one down or have a playoff style game between the bottom Super League team and the top Championship team with the winner being in Super League the following season.

All well and good, but, top championship club salary cap - £400,000 if they get dispensation, bottom SL club - £1,800,000. Championship overseas quota - 1, SL - 5.

You can't have teams playing with different rules in the same competition, that is what needs resolving if we are to have promotion and relegation. If we can't resolve this, don't have promotion and relegation

Re: the new structure finalized. : Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:55 pm  

freddies wig wrote:

All well and good, but, top championship club salary cap - £400,000 if they get dispensation, bottom SL club - £1,800,000. Championship overseas quota - 1, SL - 5.

You can't have teams playing with different rules in the same competition, that is what needs resolving if we are to have promotion and relegation. If we can't resolve this, don't have promotion and relegation

Next year Top championship clubs have £1m s.c and super league has 1.6m s.c - super league can have 7 non-fed and championship 5.

Not the same, but similar enough for it to be competitive...

Re: the new structure finalized. : Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:58 pm  

SL is five isn't it?

Re: the new structure finalized. : Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:00 pm  

Starbug wrote:

So thats 2 more than we currently have


Until Mrs Koucash buys Swinton

You like me has no idea exactly how this will ' pan out ', we'll just have to wait and see

Well that should cost her about a weeks housekeeping

Re: the new structure finalized. : Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:01 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Next year Top championship clubs have £1m s.c and super league has 1.6m s.c - super league can have 7 non-fed and championship 5.

Not the same, but similar enough for it to be competitive...

£1m will be more than nearly all clubs in the Championship will turn over in a year! Aside from Bradford and London, Championship clubs will only be getting £500k (1st 2014), 400k (2nd 2014) and a sliding scales £350k downwards.