Re: Just frustrating : Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:37 am  

morleys_deckchair wrote:

we lost a game.. its no big deal.... The team simply didnt play well in key areas.

ours half backs were non existent and the forwards lacked aggression.

big mistakes in key areas at crucial moments in the game cost us dear.

this is basically a Karl Harrison press conference

Re: Just frustrating : Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:46 am  

sally cinnamon wrote:

this is basically a Karl Harrison press conference

im taking that as a compliment.

Re: Just frustrating : Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:03 am  

These threads are so similar year after year. We've been convincingly beaten, and thumped on some occasions, by struggling London Salford Widnes and Bradford sides in the last four years. Yet none of them have been to Wembley or Old Trafford, while we have been to five finals.

I don't think Tony Smith particularly minds losing to sides that won't overtake us in the table, resting players in these games and being fresh/ready/motivated to go again in bigger games ahead. The key is getting to the finals, at the end of all of these seasons I've not looked back and thought "if only we didn't lose by 50 at London"/"that bloody Widnes game, gutted!".

Re: Just frustrating : Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:11 pm  

BuckleyStreetWire wrote:

I don't think Tony Smith particularly minds losing to sides that won't overtake us in the table, resting players in these games and being fresh/ready/motivated to go again in bigger games ahead. The key is getting to the finals, at the end of all of these seasons I've not looked back and thought "if only we didn't lose by 50 at London"/"that bloody Widnes game, gutted!".

No but at the end of the season if we lose in the Grand Final, or in a playoff a game before the Grand Final (which will have been a vastly better season than most of us expected), there will be a lot of discussion on here about how TS has taken us as far as he can, falling at the final hurdle.

The pressure will start rising on the board to make the transition to Agar sooner than expected.

Re: Just frustrating : Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:15 pm  

....and yet another season of "it's always your year!"

Re: Just frustrating : Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:58 am  

I don't know what the stats are but what annoys me is that we always seem to go into games v Widnes understrength, underprepared and unmotivated and consequently lose games which, on form, we should win. It is almost as if we want to lose.
One bad game is understandable but there seems to be a pattern of poor displays against Widnes where players are rested and those that play seem to suffer a cataclysmic loss of form.

Re: Just frustrating : Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:13 am  

Most seem to think that Monas was rested but in fact he had a problem with his ankle and coundnt be risked.
I would agree with him not playing if not fully fit regardless of opposition.
We lacked passion, for Widnes the Wire fixture is one that they look for first. Its a massive game, according to my Widnes mates, for us its not now, it used to be but its no different than HKR,Cas,Wakey. Its not a game to get up for and although wrong, they should be up for every game, it is true some games mean more than others. This isnt a dig at Widnes just that we have new goals and are challenging on higher level than them.

Re: Just frustrating : Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:35 am  

It is frustrating but I would rather lose this game where key players are rested than the SF against a bigger rival in recent years

Re: Just frustrating : Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:02 am  

I also have to note the attendance was so poor for a derby game, where were the Widnes fans?

Re: Just frustrating : Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:19 am  

marshman777 wrote:

Most seem to think that Monas was rested but in fact he had a problem with his ankle and coundnt be risked.
I would agree with him not playing if not fully fit regardless of opposition.
We lacked passion, for Widnes the Wire fixture is one that they look for first. Its a massive game, according to my Widnes mates, for us its not now, it used to be but its no different than HKR,Cas,Wakey. Its not a game to get up for and although wrong, they should be up for every game, it is true some games mean more than others. This isnt a dig at Widnes just that we have new goals and are challenging on higher level than them.

I heard the same thing and it was particularly the case because of the plastic pitch. Bridge was set not to play as well.