Re: Squad for Salford away : Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:10 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Yeah Ward got a good try but lost possession twice cheaply, and neither had to do with how he's utilised as a battering ram.

Bit of a strange game to evaluate. We were again sharper in attack compared to 3/4 weeks ago but could've had a better final product. In defence the scramble was reminiscent of the start of the year but the lack of slowing down the PTB was really bad.

Thought we always had enough IF we weren't guilty of too many handling errors.....but we almost were. 12-6 after 63 mins against us I think I read.

As for individuals.

Briscoe shone, perhaps Watkins should just pass to him straight away at times instead of the step first?
Moon again didn't shine.
Walters didn't so much but Minchella I thought went well.
Singleton went well, Peacock not so much, neither Aiton.
Hardaker, even though he couldn't stop the 3rd try he's still so important both in attack and defence, (he stopped one later on that rolled into touch)

Re slowing down the ptb. We've been getting off the tackled player very quickly all season so far, which is why it annoys me in games when the opposition hold down and aren't penalised for it.

Re: Squad for Salford away : Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:17 pm  

Thought Ward did ok, can't remember if one of his "knock-ons" was one of Silverwoods dodgy decisions.
Walters was very good in my opinion, did masses of defence and was often willing to run onto the ball from deep.
JJB very good also.
Peacock superb except for being slow at marker for their last try.

We made a few too many errors (though we got nothing from the ref which didn't help) but I thought overall it was pretty good against a good and enthusiastic Salford side.

Re: Squad for Salford away : Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:17 pm  

Him wrote:

Re slowing down the ptb. We've been getting off the tackled player very quickly all season so far, which is why it annoys me in games when the opposition hold down and aren't penalised for it.

Agreed it's a strange one. Should we risk the wrath of a penalty or be careful???

TBF too often we don't dominate the tackle enough to earn us the right to slow things down.....but even when we do we seem to pop up in a rush to avoid a penalty.

Think this along with the conservative attack of one man rugby is a planned risk free approach to stop giving opposition cheap and easy yards high up the pitch with knock ons and penalties.

But as we saw tonight, even risk free the ball can come free and lose possession in a bad place.

Re: Squad for Salford away : Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:29 pm  

Ref again poor some ridiculous calls.
That aside our marker defence is weak , their last try was pathetic defence, and although we deserved the win we kept them in it imo.

Re: Squad for Salford away : Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:30 pm  

We played some good stuff at times but daft offloads and errors at crucial times are becoming worrying. From a defensive perspective all our problems stem from our inability to control the ruck and with the one on one missed tackles close to our own creeping in it means we allow teams a way back into the game.
I thought Aiton coming back on in the 2nd half was the turning point. We were in total control with Burrow causing lots of problems around the ruck but Aiton came on and slowed the Leeds PTB down, and gave a aft penalty away on the 5th tackle which allowed Salford to steady the ship. He also has a very bad habit of flying out of the line ala JJB. The jury is still out on him IMO.
I'd rest JP next week, he will always give the team the same work rate every week regardless but I didn't think he seemed that effective, I'd bring Delaney into the front row for JP and I'd drop Kylie to the bench in place of Singleton. Kylie again was average in his first stint and much better in his 2nd so playing him off the bench may mean he's fresher and more effective.
No doubt Ward will take some stick for the 2 knock ons but up until that point he was carrying the ball quite wll I thought.

Re: Squad for Salford away : Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:33 pm  

The Ward 1st knock on it was clearly a grapple before and the slo mo shot from behind showed Sau's hand in at the ball!

Re: Squad for Salford away : Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:34 pm  

All the tell tale issues were again in evidence.

3rd/4th, no silverware.

Re: Squad for Salford away : Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:36 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Agreed it's a strange one. Should we risk the wrath of a penalty or be careful???

This area seems a bit of lottery to me at the moment. You see teams getting away with all sorts of infringements for the majority of the game and then the ref will penalise a team for something that seems relatively innocuous in comparison to what's gone before. I thought the same thing happened to Salford when we were carrying the ball out away from our line in the 2nd half.

Re: Squad for Salford away : Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:36 pm  

Interesting game if we are genuine contenders should we be struggling to beat teams at the base of the table?

Thought Salford looked to be an improving side and were a match for us for the most part. Harris looks to be getting a grip with the structures

On us I thought JJB was my MOM with excellent games from Zac, Burrow and Briscoe. On the other side Peacock, Hall and Ablett weren't great.

There has to be a better kicker than Zac!!

Re: Squad for Salford away : Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:45 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Interesting game if we are genuine contenders should we be struggling to beat teams at the base of the table?

The little things needed to be winning silverware are lacking. Twice leeds put up a bomb deep in salfrods half and within seconds salford were halfway up the field.

Salford are battling for 8th spot, leeds should have won that game comfortably. They had chances once they got in front to take command and through incompetence continually allowed salford a way back into the game.

It wasn't good.