Re: Eddie Pettybourne : Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:59 am  

I think "the point" is Goulding has to playing out of his skin to get in in front of Gelling, Sarginson, Thornley, Hughes and Tomkins whereas Pettybourne is given a chance straight away at prop because the competition for places isn't as great and after being unfit all year he goes straight into the team.

So he is comparing a centre to a prop in the way they are being treated for team selection.

How's that Dave O?

Re: Eddie Pettybourne : Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:24 am  

But there are 4 sports available in the team for Prop a position where we lack experience and depth of quality whereas we have 2 centre spots.

Re: Eddie Pettybourne : Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:13 am  

Pettybourne will have a fight on his hands when he's back to get a spot IMO. In a standard selection we normally have 4 props and to my mind three of those spots should be nailed down by Flower, Taylor and Clubb. I think those three have been a step above the other lads this year so that leaves just one spot open. At the minute Crosby is playing well and Wane likes Dudson (although many including me don't). I also wouldn't count out Ryan Sutton who played very impressively in his first few games and Waney has since rested him. He may feel he's ready for a spot again soon and if he performs I think Wane would back him if he felt he deserved it.

There's some depth at prop IMO but injuries have meant it doesn't always look that way. Hopefully in a few weeks we'll have 8 or 9 lads battling it out for 4 spots.

[DaveO]

Re: Eddie Pettybourne : Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:28 pm  

EastStandFaithful wrote:

I think "the point" is Goulding has to playing out of his skin to get in in front of Gelling, Sarginson, Thornley, Hughes and Tomkins whereas Pettybourne is given a chance straight away at prop because the competition for places isn't as great and after being unfit all year he goes straight into the team.

So he is comparing a centre to a prop in the way they are being treated for team selection.

How's that Dave O?

Unsatisfactory. We have far more props than centres and God knows why anyone would think think Goulding has to play out of his skin to get in the team in front of any of those other players. You'd think they were all Gene Miles clones

Re: Eddie Pettybourne : Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:12 pm  

DaveO wrote:

Unsatisfactory. We have far more props than centres and God knows why anyone would think think Goulding has to play out of his skin to get in the team in front of any of those other players. You'd think they were all Gene Miles clones

im certain ALL teams have more props than centres and its not like goulding has played well when he has been in the team but what the hell, hes not one of our 12 non-academy players so we sh8uld definately play him!!!

Re: Eddie Pettybourne : Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:28 pm  

Goulding is a casualty of the WCC in my opinion can look class for large periods but when he's not on fire he doesn't have that big athletic body of a gelling who can still make meters even whilst playing poor.

Re: Eddie Pettybourne : Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:47 pm  

DaveO wrote:

EastStandFaithful wrote:

I think "the point" is Goulding has to playing out of his skin to get in in front of Gelling, Sarginson, Thornley, Hughes and Tomkins whereas Pettybourne is given a chance straight away at prop because the competition for places isn't as great and after being unfit all year he goes straight into the team.

So he is comparing a centre to a prop in the way they are being treated for team selection.

How's that Dave O?

Unsatisfactory. We have far more props than centres and God knows why anyone would think think Goulding has to play out of his skin to get in the team in front of any of those other players. You'd think they were all Gene Miles clones

Goulding is hardly Gene Miles either.

I don't understand the uproar on this? All our centres, Goulding included, are distinctly average. The only difference that separates Goulding from the rest is that the others are here next season and that's why he's not being picked.

The situations behind the two aren't the same. Most people can see this apart from a select few? Could these people either have an hidden agenda with the club or be linked in some way with Goulding?

Re: Eddie Pettybourne : Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:18 pm  

DaveO wrote:

Unsatisfactory. We have far more props than centres and God knows why anyone would think think Goulding has to play out of his skin to get in the team in front of any of those other players. You'd think they were all Gene Miles clones

Do you mean unsatisfactory in that you don't like what Waney is quoted as saying or you don't agree with my interpretation of the "point"?

Re: Eddie Pettybourne : Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:37 pm  

Pettybourne's done ok in the games he's played this season. Some seem to have him down as a big fan's favourite and others as a complete flop, when I don't think either opinion is justified.

There is an argument that we shouldn't have signed an overseas player with his recent injury record, but he's been unfortunate with multiple injuries rather than recurring ones. We've seen over the last few seasons you need 7 or 8 quality props in the squad to cover injuries.

FWIW I don't think he would make our first choice 17, and I think he'll struggle even more when we have Tautai.

Re: Eddie Pettybourne : Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:59 pm  

WARRIORCRAIG wrote:

Pettybourne's done ok in the games he's played this season. Some seem to have him down as a big fan's favourite and others as a complete flop, when I don't think either opinion is justified.

There is an argument that we shouldn't have signed an overseas player with his recent injury record, but he's been unfortunate with multiple injuries rather than recurring ones. We've seen over the last few seasons you need 7 or 8 quality props in the squad to cover injuries.

FWIW I don't think he would make our first choice 17, and I think he'll struggle even more when we have Tautai.

He may well struggle.

This season:
Taylor
Flower
Clubb
are looking like the backbone with one from:
Crosby
Pettybourne
Sutton
Dudson
Being the 4th choice and other back ups to cover injury.

The back row will be pretty easy to pick when Joel Tomkins comes back into the team (assuming he can play to a similar level he used to). Farrell and Tomkins would be 11 & 12 and Bateman off the bench. So Pettybourne and Clubb who can play in the back row should be focused on the prop places.

Next season you would assume its Tautai in, Taylor out.