Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:06 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

In times gone past we might've done but the team usually wasn't missing as many starters (and if Moon stays on at centre instead of Walters getting caught out we probably still win). I'm not trying to have a pop at Walters because he's done very well since he came in but he did get done there and on one or two other occasions and it happens with the younger guys.

For how good the likes of Sinfield, Burrow, McGuire etc became at winning the tight games they also had the narrow defeats in the 2003 playoffs and CC Final, lost to Bradford in the 2004 playoffs (before gaining revenge) and narrow defeats in the 2005 CC and GF. I'd say this 'golden generation' didn't become good at winning the close games until McClennen took over and at that point they'd already won 2 GF's and WCC.

Even the guys who became experts at winning the close games had to have their failures first, and it's perhaps understandable that with a chunk of them missing a less experienced side came up just short, with a bit of a rookie mistake leading to the winning try.

Surely you are not comparing run of the mill league game with cup finals and semi's?

You are correct to talk of youngsters learning and time, but the comparisons you were making, those previous players were winning those same league matches, Infact winning by big margins in some cases.

Yes Walters made a mistake at Wakefield. But there were chances before that not taken by experienced players. I can't recall other than Wakey where a youngster has made the mistake that cost us either. I think it's the experienced guys who are coming up with uncharacteristic errors and making the failures.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:26 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

You are correct to talk of youngsters learning and time, but the comparisons you were making, those previous players were winning those same league matches, Infact winning by big margins in some cases.

That's the whole point, about tight games not big margins games. This same team strolled past Wakey twice this year.

When this Golden Generation were first hitting heights they drew 5 games in the 2003 & 2004 seasons. In the following 9 seasons Leeds drew 4 games altogether as those tight games became wins.

Gotcha wrote:

Yes Walters made a mistake at Wakefield. But there were chances before that not taken by experienced players. I can't recall other than Wakey where a youngster has made the mistake that cost us either. I think it's the experienced guys who are coming up with uncharacteristic errors and making the failures.

Yes like I said I wasn't trying to bag the guy but it's impossible to mention the Wakey defeat without mentioning the winning try and what was behind it.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:01 pm  

I think Brian deserves a bit of criticism for tonight. Fancy resting so many players in a big local derby.

It was Bradford's last chance to put one over on Leeds for at least a year,maybe longer, and they took it.

However, any calls for McDermott's head would be harsh.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:04 pm  

Bruce_Forsyth wrote:

I think Brian deserves a bit of criticism for tonight. Fancy resting so many players in a big local derby.

It was Bradford's last chance to put one over on Leeds for at least a year,maybe longer, and they took it.

However, any calls for McDermott's head would be harsh.

A bigger critisism would be once you get in front with limited time left, why the hell would you then sub Delaney.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:35 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

A bigger critisism would be once you get in front with limited time left, why the hell would you then sub Delaney.

Just one look at the bench tonight and jimmy and his bulls would have got all the motivation needed really.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:22 pm  

Well I'm glad I spent 4 hours in the car on the m1 and a 150 mile round trip to watch that crap. Bradford were all but still managed to beat us

The kids at half time manned to hold onto the ball so why couldn't the professionals.
The worst thing was the lack of structure or organisation, and no real go to players who can come up with a big play.

We did make breaks but never had the pace to finishthem off

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:37 am  

Our attack is dismal, we rarely see any set moves at scrums etc. The skill level in this squad needs improvement.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:15 am  

if we dont beat wolves next week (going into it on the back of 5 poor performances) McDermott should have to answer some questions. you dont pick a squad as thin as that to play the bulls. they showed what they can do when taken lightly last week, so what do we do? the exact same. the mind boggles

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:13 pm  

After the performance against bradford and London it is time to GO NOW

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:18 pm  

huddersfield rhino wrote:

After the performance against bradford and London it is time to GO NOW

The week before the Cup final? That could only go well for us.