Cancellation of passports : Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:22 am  

It's been mentioned that the Australian Foreign Minister Julia Bishop is cancelling the passports of dual citizens who have gone overseas to help the ISIS cause in Iraq and beyond. As Islam is a religion of peace and only a few bad apples give it a bad name. Would this thing be considered/has it been mentioned in the UK, where you can identify some of the radical islamists who are the "bad apples" for once? http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/ ... 3aly1.html

It's been mentioned that the Australian Foreign Minister Julia Bishop is cancelling the passports of dual citizens who have gone overseas to help the ISIS cause in Iraq and beyond. As Islam is a religion of peace and only a few bad apples give it a bad name. Would this thing be considered/has it been mentioned in the UK, where you can identify some of the radical islamists who are the "bad apples" for once? http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/ ... 3aly1.html

Re: Cancellation of passports : Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:14 am  

IF you can identify those who have definitely been fighting for an organisation classified as "Terrorist" by your government then its a fair call. What is apparent in the UK is that our security agencies are very keen on bandying around various numbers of suspected citizens who have gone abroad to become terrorists, numbers ranging from 300 to 2000 have been touted around in the press in recent weeks, yet they mention in the next breath that they can't be sure on the number, nor of who these suspects are.

Which sort of makes you wonder why they got the job at the "Homeland Security" interview in the first place.

Re: Cancellation of passports : Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:12 am  

JerryChicken wrote:

IF you can identify those who have definitely been fighting for an organisation classified as "Terrorist" by your government then its a fair call. What is apparent in the UK is that our security agencies are very keen on bandying around various numbers of suspected citizens who have gone abroad to become terrorists, numbers ranging from 300 to 2000 have been touted around in the press in recent weeks, yet they mention in the next breath that they can't be sure on the number, nor of who these suspects are.

Which sort of makes you wonder why they got the job at the "Homeland Security" interview in the first place.

Put Glen Hoddle in charge. Apparently he struggled last night to differentiate between Algeria and Al Jazeera. Should be fun with his interpretations of Al Quaeeda and Isis, just make sure if you do travel, you don't stay at an Ibis hotel

Re: Cancellation of passports : Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:00 am  

JerryChicken wrote:

IF you can identify those who have definitely been fighting for an organisation classified as "Terrorist" by your government then its a fair call. What is apparent in the UK is that our security agencies are very keen on bandying around various numbers of suspected citizens who have gone abroad to become terrorists, numbers ranging from 300 to 2000 have been touted around in the press in recent weeks, yet they mention in the next breath that they can't be sure on the number, nor of who these suspects are.

Which sort of makes you wonder why they got the job at the "Homeland Security" interview in the first place.

It was just political moves to try and garner support behind any action that may be taken against ISIS.
There is no coincidence that just when there might have to be action of some sort the PM comes out with a figure of all these "terrorists" that might come back to Britain to blow us all up.
See then any action is us defending ourselves.
And of course the spoon fed media in this country lapped it up without any critical questioning of the stats or the people wheeled out to relay them.

Re: Cancellation of passports : Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:36 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

Put Glen Hoddle in charge. Apparently he struggled last night to differentiate between Algeria and Al Jazeera. Should be fun with his interpretations of Al Quaeeda and Isis, just make sure if you do travel, you don't stay at an Ibis hotel

tbf the Arabic for the anglicised "Algeria" is actually al-Jazāʼir

Re: Cancellation of passports : Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:16 pm  

Him wrote:

It was just political moves to try and garner support behind any action that may be taken against ISIS.
There is no coincidence that just when there might have to be action of some sort the PM comes out with a figure of all these "terrorists" that might come back to Britain to blow us all up.
See then any action is us defending ourselves.
And of course the spoon fed media in this country lapped it up without any critical questioning of the stats or the people wheeled out to relay them.

It all strikes me as Cameron's version of 45 minutes. I didn't see the figures of how may people being bandied about, to be fair, but it seemed that we were being told to prepare for war on the streets of Britain (regardless of how that would actually happen) based on 2 blokes from Cardiff who were in a video.

Re: Cancellation of passports : Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:18 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

tbf the Arabic for the anglicised "Algeria" is actually al-Jazāʼir

I'd bet good money Hoddle didn't/doesn't know that.

On a related issue, what are the Oxford reserve Boat Race crew going to be called now?

Re: Cancellation of passports : Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:40 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

tbf the Arabic for the anglicised "Algeria" is actually al-Jazāʼir

Which still ain't quite Al Jazeera and are you seriously giving Hoddle the BoD?

Re: Cancellation of passports : Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:19 pm  

Interesting that no one seems at all concerned about British (and other nationality) Jews serving and fighting in the Israeli Defence Force

Ramadan Mubarak

Re: Cancellation of passports : Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:18 pm  

Why would anyone be 'concerned' about that?!