Re: Will it put people off : Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:56 pm  

I felt sorry for them. They've got (mainly) decent, sensible fans who have suffered a lot over the last few years. No loyal paying spectator deserves to witness that kind of embarrasment. It was men against boys and the 'boys' wiped the floor with the 'men'. On paper that should have been a far closer contest.

The best thing for Bradford now is to go down a league and come back stronger. They're going to need a lot of patience and money though.

Re: Will it put people off : Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:03 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

I'm not sorry for their fans.

After one of the two Grand Finals we lost against them in the early 2000s, my grandson and I were unfortunate enough to spend 10 minutes in a tram with a great gang of them, and were subjected to the worst behaviour I've ever seen by any RL fans in any circumstance ever.

I'm sure that lot were all the sort of fair weather supporters who would have dropped the Bulls at the first sign of trouble and now don't even remember following them, but I will never forget the events of that night. The Bradford club all but disappeared in my estimation as a result.

I have heard you mention that incident before and i would feel exactly the same.

I do think it a shame that a powerhouse of the SL era has found itself in the predicament it is in though.

The miss management must have over the last 10 years must have been boarding on the ridiculous.

Re: Will it put people off : Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:07 pm  

Wigan Peer wrote:

i'm bloody certain they would have no sympathy for us in the same situation...

We're still the team everyone wants to beat, so, no, there would be street parties along the entire length of the M62 if we got into their position. You only had to look at the mix of shirts in the north stand that had taken the ASDA shilling - Stains, Hudds, Wire & Leigh were all there & I'm sure I noticed a couple of Whinos coming out at the end of the game.

As far as the game is concerned, it was embarrassing (5live were saying that Red Hall are going to look at Easter fixtures to stop it happening - which can only extend the season). But isn't it simply down to the depth of squads, rotation & man-management that allows us to do that? It was actually a good run-out for some of the crèche & they were enjoying scoring for fun. We've got to have that mindset of "grind the opposition into the dirt at every opportunity", take no prisoners. As an exhibition match I really rather enjoyed it.

Re: Will it put people off : Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:20 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

I'm not sorry for their fans.

After one of the two Grand Finals we lost against them in the early 2000s, my grandson and I were unfortunate enough to spend 10 minutes in a tram with a great gang of them, and were subjected to the worst behaviour I've ever seen by any RL fans in any circumstance ever.

I'm sure that lot were all the sort of fair weather supporters who would have dropped the Bulls at the first sign of trouble and now don't even remember following them, but I will never forget the events of that night. The Bradford club all but disappeared in my estimation as a result.

I'm sure it was an unfortunate incident but as a 17 year old kid coming away from Wigan on an official bus it was attacked by lots of youthful Wigan fans smashing two of the windows on the coach with cans of fosters and bricks! Every club has a minority of idiots

Re: Will it put people off : Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:01 am  

Orrell Lad wrote:

I felt sorry for them. They've got (mainly) decent, sensible fans who have suffered a lot over the last few years. No loyal paying spectator deserves to witness that kind of embarrasment. It was men against boys and the 'boys' wiped the floor with the 'men'. On paper that should have been a far closer contest.

The best thing for Bradford now is to go down a league and come back stronger. They're going to need a lot of patience and money though.

That's the thing isn't it, we were as inexperienced if not more so then Bradford. I looked at the scoreboard at 76-0 just as we'd scored our 14th try and saw Williams, Hampshire, Manfredi etc back slapping and celebrating and it really hit me that Bradford shouldn't be getting beat by that scoreline against a young Wigan line up. Our kids are the best in the country but they had enough experienced bodies in their line up to keep that score respectable.

Cummins said they never threw the towel in, I beg to differ.

Re: Will it put people off : Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:38 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

That's the thing isn't it, we were as inexperienced if not more so then Bradford. I looked at the scoreboard at 76-0 just as we'd scored our 14th try and saw Williams, Hampshire, Manfredi etc back slapping and celebrating and it really hit me that Bradford shouldn't be getting beat by that scoreline against a young Wigan line up. Our kids are the best in the country but they had enough experienced bodies in their line up to keep that score respectable.

Cummins said they never threw the towel in, I beg to differ.

The sight of a heavily overweight jamal fakir gesturing that he'd had enough and wanted to come off (after Manfredi's try IIRC) suggested that he'd definitely thrown the towel in. SW wouldn't be letting a Wigan player pull the shirt on ever again if they'd done that!

Re: Will it put people off : Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:03 am  

WARRIORCRAIG wrote:

The sight of a heavily overweight jamal fakir gesturing that he'd had enough and wanted to come off (after Manfredi's try IIRC) suggested that he'd definitely thrown the towel in. SW wouldn't be letting a Wigan player pull the shirt on ever again if they'd done that!

Totally agree. They were an embarrassment.

For all their club's problems, there were still 13 of them out there, and they are all supposedly professional players. Half that Wigan side consisted of juniors. The should never have been allowed to inflict such damage.

I can only assume Cummins's job is safe because no-one else wants it.

Re: Will it put people off : Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:34 am  

Wigan Peer wrote:

Mixed feelings on this... But i'm bloody certain they would have no sympathy for us in the same situation...

You’re too right, and I’d bet there’s about another 12 sides fans besides in SL that would have taken a great deal of pleasure in sticking their verbal boot into our gonads. (Verbal boot where the bloody hell did I get that silly analogy from, well you know what I mean).

Re: Will it put people off : Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:42 pm  

pies-r-us wrote:

verbal boot into are gonads

that would be the adjective "proverbial" you're failing to elucidate, old chap

Re: Will it put people off : Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:02 pm  

CyberPieMan wrote:

that would be the adjective "proverbial" you're failing to elucidate, old chap

Quite so, one has a tendency to lapse into the common in an effort to make a point, it’s a weakness I know.