FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Wire or Leeds?
RankPostsTeam
International Star1091No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 03 201212 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
21st Feb 20 10:2121st Feb 20 10:22LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Wire or Leeds? : Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:23 pm  
hula89 wrote:
Hopefully a few chair people of the top teams will do something about it and complain. Sadly I think the only way that anything would be done is if someone like Wigan or Saints won from 5th after Leeds had finished 1st. The RFL won't do a thing while it benefits Gary Hetherington's pocket.

:lol:
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach16252
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 12 200419 years58th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 19:5527th Feb 24 19:53LINK
Milestone Posts
15000
20000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Challenge Cup winners 2009 2010 2012 2019
League Leaders 2011 2016

Re: Wire or Leeds? : Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:54 pm  
pies-r-us wrote:
You’re right mate last night’s result was an absolute disaster for the game of rugby league.


And I thought we took it badly!
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach305No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 30 200915 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
18th Jan 16 18:4418th Jan 16 09:52LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Wire or Leeds? : Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:56 pm  
Take off your cherry and white blinkers and see the big picture ! The champions are the team that wins the grand final end of. If the champions were the team that finishes top, then Warrington would have won the title because they were the most consistant team over the year and rested and rotated their older players to keep them fresh for the play offs. They also put out a reserve team prior to wembley and lost the two points that would have given them the title. The only reason you would chose to finish higher up the table is to make your play off games easier and to obtain a second chance from finishing in the top two. Games through the season are not meaning less, is just that Leeds have won back to back Grand finals from 5th so everyones jumping on the band wagon saying weekley games are.

Please take some time to ackowledge what a champion team Leeds have been over the last eight years in a salary cap competition. They have never broken the cap like some and are currently spending under the cap. Adam Pearson and Ian Lennegan can spend all they want prizing contracted players from other clubs to try and buy sucess, but local lads with a never say die attitude is a winning combination no club, not even Wigan can buy under the current rugby league structure. :SUBMISSION:
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star1006No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 21 201113 years291st
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Mar 24 18:4724th Jan 24 02:22LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Rochdale
Signature
Formerly known as Moonlight Flit

Re: Wire or Leeds? : Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:49 pm  
Tingley Rhino wrote:

Please take some time to ackowledge what a champion team Leeds.....



Your winning the 'play off final' , is just akin to winning the Challenge cup isn't it ?

Win a few matches and proclaim yourselves champions, which is a misnomer.

Fair play for winning the cup, again.

But to use the title 'Champions' is an oxymoron.

Hell, even Wakey turned you over this season, as well as many other clubs.
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member6766
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 02 200222 years46th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 22:3928th Mar 24 22:38LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Wakefield but near to Leeds!

Re: Wire or Leeds? : Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:00 pm  
So the only sure fire way of becoming champions is to win the League?
If Warrington or Saints became Champions by winning the GF you would still complain as they finished 2nd or 3rd.
Or is it just because Leeds won it again you think it is a bad idea?
The champions of SL is the team that wins the GF.
The league fixtures are all about gaining an advantage in the play offs.
These are the rules and these are the rules all the SL clubs signed up to.
Oh and yes we did get beat by Wakefield in the League even Widnes beat some of the top teams this year!!
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star993
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 27 201113 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th Feb 24 10:599th Sep 17 09:00LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Sat wi pig on't wall
Signature
Have you noticed, you can never find a radical priest when you need one.

Re: Wire or Leeds? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:56 am  
chapylad wrote:
So the only sure fire way of becoming champions is to win the League?
If Warrington or Saints became Champions by winning the GF you would still complain as they finished 2nd or 3rd.
Or is it just because Leeds won it again you think it is a bad idea?
The champions of SL is the team that wins the GF.
The league fixtures are all about gaining an advantage in the play offs.
These are the rules and these are the rules all the SL clubs signed up to.
Oh and yes we did get beat by Wakefield in the League even Widnes beat some of the top teams this year!!


The SL clubs signed up to this idea you say, but I didn’t, and I’d say if it’s broke fix it. Not everything that is a rule/law or idea is necessarily perfect and this one is turning into a very bad one for the SL. I was told that it was once legal to kill a Welshman within the boundaries of the walls of Chester, this I’d think you’d agree was a bad idea if you were Welsh, and the way the play offs are structured and the title of champions is a bad idea for the weekly rounds of SL, and I would think the same no matter who wins a GF. Also with no P&R about half of SL has virtually next to nothing to play for all season.
Dougy 
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1693No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 26 200915 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
1st Feb 14 19:4319th Jan 14 20:14LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Wire or Leeds? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:11 am  
Would Leeds have finished top if thats what they had to do to become Champions?

Winning the playoffs is no more harder than winning the CC. In fact, Wigans run to win the CC last year was harder than Leeds run to win the GF. Finishing top is the hardest thing to do, thats why that team should be the Champions starting next year. Give us all a reason to buy a season ticket as the regular is meaningless with just 27 friendlies at the moment.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach9043
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 28 200618 years67th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
29th Mar 24 05:4123rd Mar 24 20:43LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
"Look, I'd never use injuries as an excuse..." Daryl Powell

Re: Wire or Leeds? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:15 am  
Dougy wrote:
Give us all a reason to buy a season ticket as the regular is meaningless with just 27 friendlies at the moment.


Disagree with this point. Why not back your team to surpass Leeds' achievement: win the LLS and GF (throw in the CC as well and your team will definitely get the acknowledgement that you appear to so desperately need). But AEOTD it's a personal choice I guess; just don't be too surprised to find your team, having enjoyed lacklustre support throughout the season and displaying the lack of effort in regular rounds that many fans are apparently calling for, finds itself unable to lift itself at the seasons end.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star161No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 09 201212 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
14th Oct 12 08:4313th Oct 12 20:24LINK
Milestone Posts
100
200
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Wire or Leeds? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:20 am  
Dougy wrote:
Would Leeds have finished top if thats what they had to do to become Champions?

Winning the playoffs is no more harder than winning the CC. In fact, Wigans run to win the CC last year was harder than Leeds run to win the GF. Finishing top is the hardest thing to do, thats why that team should be the Champions starting next year. Give us all a reason to buy a season ticket as the regular is meaningless with just 27 friendlies at the moment.


In the CC you get weeks between the rounds. In the playoffs you have to back up, week after week.

From wigans run i remember them playing bradford away (who finished outside the playoffs) warrington away (1st) saints neutral (3rd) and leeds neutral (5th). I don't remember the game before bradford, but would i be right in assuming it wasn't an opponent worth mentioning?

Leeds had to back up week after week against 8th (h) 4th (away) 1st (away) 2nd (neutral)

So no, wigans cup run wasn't harder. And the weekly rounds aren't meaningless because you still need to finish higher up to have the best chance. Though i suppose, anywhere from 1st to 5th wigan generally fail to make the grand final so It doesn't matter for you guys.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star429No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 30 201113 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
18th Oct 12 09:278th Oct 12 20:02LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
-CLARE BALDINGS LOVE CHILD-

Re: Wire or Leeds? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:44 am  
Peter Kingsley wrote:
In the CC you get weeks between the rounds. In the playoffs you have to back up, week after week.

From wigans run i remember them playing bradford away (who finished outside the playoffs) warrington away (1st) saints neutral (3rd) and leeds neutral (5th). I don't remember the game before bradford, but would i be right in assuming it wasn't an opponent worth mentioning?

Leeds had to back up week after week against 8th (h) 4th (away) 1st (away) 2nd (neutral)

So no, wigans cup run wasn't harder. And the weekly rounds aren't meaningless because you still need to finish higher up to have the best chance. Though i suppose, anywhere from 1st to 5th wigan generally fail to make the grand final so It doesn't matter for you guys.

-talk about missing the point!and to think,you actually *believe* your world champs of rl as well as *worthy* champions of sl :lol:
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Google [Bot], LesG, The Yellow Giraffe, WWste and 377 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Wigan Warriors


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
State of the Nation
UllFC
227
2m
The Good Friday Derby Massacre
UllFC
148
2m
York - 14th April
financialtim
15
4m
Huddersfield - Home
jbuzza
7
4m
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
1386
5m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
34299
6m
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Catalans Home
rubber ducki
18
6m
Rd 6 I Cas A
leeds owl
125
6m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
56020
8m
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
PopTart
29
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
25s
Smith out ASAP
Backwoodsman
138
29s
Smith - should he stay or should he go
The Cooke Re
360
30s
The Good Friday Derby Massacre
UllFC
148
31s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Jack Burton
8703
33s
TV games not Wire
Smiffy27
2867
47s
The official Leon Hayes Thread
Smiffy27
18
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
1386
1m
Other Championship Clubs
FOREVERTRIN
98
1m
Ky Rodwell
PopTart
111
2m
Spare Tickets Friday
post
4
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Another Tigers Defeat As Rhinos Go Level Top
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
York - 14th April
financialtim
15
TODAY
Stats article
Sir Gregory
5
TODAY
21 man Squads - Devils v Leopards
Cokey
4
TODAY
Squad for Catalan
Smiffy27
17
TODAY
The Wigan Way - New Podcast - Chairman Special
Jukesays
1
TODAY
Dons v Swinton Lions 30 June 2024
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad for Sheffield
AdamH
1
TODAY
London Away
Fartown58
1
TODAY
The Bulls away
terry silver
9
TODAY
The official Leon Hayes Thread
Smiffy27
18
TODAY
Saints a
Brick with e
24
TODAY
Leon Ruan signs on loan
Jemmo
2
TODAY
Wardle
Jo Jumbuck
3
TODAY
Huddersfield - Home
jbuzza
7
TODAY
Max Wood on loan to Bradford 2 weeks
rubber ducki
7
TODAY
Jake Wardle 5 Year deal
Zig
22
TODAY
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
PopTart
29
TODAY
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangements
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Another Tigers Defeat As Rhino..
159
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangeme..
578
2024 Challenge Cup Quarter Fin..
705
Easy Does It For The Dragons A..
595
Warrington Demolish London For..
697
Leigh Leopards Beat Plucky Fea..
749
Saints Triumph Over Disappoint..
730
Easy Win for the Wolves Over L..
969
Dragons Condemn Castleford To ..
937
Leigh Leopards Secure First Po..
1081
St Helens Tame The Rhinos To W..
1051
Wigan Warriors Come From Behin..
1122
Betfred Championship and Leagu..
1095
2024 Challenge Cup Sixth Round..
3883
Featherstone Win Extra Time Cu..
1213