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Re: Agar Out Part Four : Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:02 am  
Nail on the head TRB

Wakefield a team playing to less than the sum of its parts.

Suggests the problem is with the coach.
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Re: Agar Out Part Four : Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:04 am  
For me the biggest issue is your fitness. At the end of both halves you wilted massively. Mid season that will be very had to address.
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Re: Agar Out Part Four : Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:11 am  
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For me the biggest issue is your fitness. At the end of both halves you wilted massively. Mid season that will be very had to address.


That is obvious to most people. I wonder if its obvious to Agar , after all the conditioner is answerable to him.
If Agar isn't happy with fitness levels you would assume he would ask the conditioner to change things or change
the conditioner
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Re: Agar Out Part Four : Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:13 am  
Thing is that's not the only problem has anyone noticed how many hamstring injuries we've had this season?
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Re: Agar Out Part Four : Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:36 am  
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For me the biggest issue is your fitness. At the end of both halves you wilted massively. Mid season that will be very had to address.

Fitness only becomes an issue because we constantly put ourselves under pressure with dumb mistakes and increase the amount of tackling we have to do. Most of our players show remarkable lack of basic tackling skill.- going high ans getting bumbled off so someone else has to come and make another tackle or three or four players failing to stop the offload so yet another tackle has to be made (unless the opposition score which happened several times yesterday). Honestly - if they just tackled properly they'd be a half decent team.
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Re: Agar Out Part Four : Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:53 am  
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There was a definite improvement today and a big improvement after half time.
Which of the errors was Agar at fault for?

Seriously? Do you stand at the game with your eyes closed? Your constant burying of your head in the sand is the only ridiculous thing about this thread. Agar is responsible for the players performances and those performances are way below what they are capable of, the buck stops with him. The constant playing of people out of position has destroyed their belief and it stands out mile that he has lost the dressing room. Thats nearly 200 points conceded in 4 games and another battering awaits on monday. We have no structure, no desire, no fight, no clue. Defeat on monday should see him gone and it can't come soon enough.
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Re: Agar Out Part Four : Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:54 am  
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All of them. It's his responsibility to ensure the players perform at their best. We are not.

Cas = a team playing greater than the sum of its parts.
Wakey = a team playing below the sum of its parts.

This is reminiscent of the worst days of Tony Smith, or even Peter Roe!

Exactly. That 'performance' yesterday was for the Adam Watene trophy. It was a shameful effort. It is time for change.
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Re: Agar Out Part Four : Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:42 am  
Richard is a well educated, articulate man who knows the game inside out... He is both eloquent and erudite in his knowledge, he carries excellent qualifications and is well liked in all quarts of the game. I imagine him to be a phenomenal performer at interview, and would trust his opinion on the game without question.

Unfortunately .... He can't coach!
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Re: Agar Out Part Four : Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:46 am  
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Seriously? Do you stand at the game with your eyes closed? Your consta4ng burying of your head in the sand is the only ridiculous thing about this thread. Agar is responsible for the players performances and those performances are way below what they are capable of, the buck stops with him. The constant playing of people out of position has destroyed their belief and it stands out mile that he has lost the dressing room. Thats nearly 200 points conceded in 4 games and another battering awaits on monday. We have no structure, no desire, no fight, no clue. Defeat on monday should see him gone and it can't come soon enough.


I have my fingers in my ears too so I can't hear you....in an online type of way Lol.

I think we''ll turn it around. It won't be over night.
I'm not in control of the Agar side and he might go but I think the issue is clouded by those that just jump on the anti Agar easy option band wagon.
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Re: Agar Out Part Four : Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:57 am  
Either way being delusional seems to make me happier than the rest of you.... lol
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