Job Application Query : Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:42 pm  

Just wondering if anyone with any experience could be kind enough to help.

Applying for a salaried role for when I finish uni in the summer. The application has the usual employment history request but also asks for an 'annual salary' for each position. The previous jobs I've had have either been at training level or run of the mill dead-end sort of jobs where I was on an hourly rate, not a salary as such.

What would be the best thing to put in the box in question? Would I try and estimate whatever the figure would be for my yearly salary, e.g. weekly wage x 52, or do I simply just put in the box whatever my terms of pay were as they were set out on my contract e.g. £xx.xx p/h.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Job Application Query : Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:29 pm  

Think I put my hourly rate in the box, similar to what you have said at the end, trying to work out your "salary" would be a pain in the booty.

But I would also mention it in the info you have to put about where you worked that it wasn't a salaried position but an hourly wage basis.

Re: Job Application Query : Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:41 pm  

thanks broady

Re: Job Application Query : Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:55 pm  

No worries, I'm not totally clued up on that so maybe someone else will get on here with abit more info for you.

Hope you get the job

Re: Job Application Query : Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:29 am  

"£negotiable"

Re: Job Application Query : Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:50 am  

Is it normal for a business to advertise a salaried position to graduates and not mention what the salary is going to be, even a vague indication of a range of remuneration ?

Re: Job Application Query : Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:23 am  

JerryChicken wrote:

Is it normal for a business to advertise a salaried position to graduates and not mention what the salary is going to be, even a vague indication of a range of remuneration ?

At least he knows who he's hoping to work for. Plenty of jobs on the Universal Jobmatch site (jobcentre plus website) don't tell you the name of the employer or where it is other than a city name. And often don't tell you the hours of work.

Re: Job Application Query : Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:33 am  

Him wrote:

At least he knows who he's hoping to work for. Plenty of jobs on the Universal Jobmatch site (jobcentre plus website) don't tell you the name of the employer or where it is other than a city name. And often don't tell you the hours of work.

I watched a Billy Connolly video on Youtube last night where he ranted about checking in at an airport and how "Back in t'day" you turned up, bought your ticket, they gave you your ticket, asked you where you wanted to sit, you pointed to a plan and they tore off a sticker from the plan with your seat number on it, stuck it to your ticket and that was that, no-one could sell that seat again because there was no sticker for it !

His point was - it worked, it couldn't fail to work unless all the stickers fell off the plan.

The JobCentres used to have a similar system, they got job vacancies rung into them, they wrote out a card, they described the job, the pay, where it was and the hours, they had lines to fill in on the card so they had to give you that information, a person took the call and asked those questions and if the employer said "I don't know" to the question "How much per hour are you offering" or "Dont know" to "Where is the job located" then the card was binned - those cards then got displayed on boards and when someone wanted to apply fot he job - well you know the rest.

Do things work better now ?

Re: Job Application Query : Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:41 am  

JerryChicken wrote:

I watched a Billy Connolly video on Youtube last night where he ranted about checking in at an airport and how "Back in t'day" you turned up, bought your ticket, they gave you your ticket, asked you where you wanted to sit, you pointed to a plan and they tore off a sticker from the plan with your seat number on it, stuck it to your ticket and that was that, no-one could sell that seat again because there was no sticker for it !

His point was - it worked, it couldn't fail to work unless all the stickers fell off the plan.

Yeah I've seen that! of course that was before airlines were allowed to over-sell flights!

JerryChicken wrote:

The JobCentres used to have a similar system, they got job vacancies rung into them, they wrote out a card, they described the job, the pay, where it was and the hours, they had lines to fill in on the card so they had to give you that information, a person took the call and asked those questions and if the employer said "I don't know" to the question "How much per hour are you offering" or "Dont know" to "Where is the job located" then the card was binned - those cards then got displayed on boards and when someone wanted to apply fot he job - well you know the rest.

Do things work better now ?

Lol. No, no they don't! At least not from my albeit limited experience of the jobcentres. I help a friend of mine who's currently unemployed. She struggles with her hearing and isn't the most confident of people so she likes to have someone with her when she goes to the jobcentre etc so I help out when I can.
She's required to apply for 10 jobs per week. Which isn't a problem, anyone who's saying they can't find 10 jobs to apply for per week really isn't trying, but she's required to use the Universal Jobmatch website, which is just useless. It has some decent jobs but the vast majority are from agencies which don't tell you the name of the employer, where the workplace is and often don't tell you the hours of work. Which is off-putting when you're applying for a job that you know very, very little about and especially so when the jobcentres are desperate to find any reason to sanction a persons benefits. Also it's difficult to change the CV you use on the site, so it's difficult to tailor your CV toward a specific job.
Unfortunately she gets very little assistance from the job centre. Calling it a job centre is the wrong description really, it's a benefits eligibility checking centre. They don't help you find a job they just make you jump through certain hoops so that they can say you've done this, that and the other and then you can get your benefits.
For instance, she has A-Levels in both Maths and English yet was still sent on an English & Maths Functional Skills course for 4 weeks. A complete waste of time and money for everyone involved, when what she needs is courses that help her with interviews etc to get her confidence up.
Whilst I'm on a rant about jobcentres I might as well say how ridiculous it is that any money she earns from small jobs she gets is deducted from her benefits. Which doesn't really encourage you to take a low hours job or one-time job because you're not going to be financially better off, in fact probably worse off when adding in travelling costs.
Oh and the amount of jobs that are zero hours or low guaranteed hours (say 8 hours per week) that require you to be available every day of the week is ridiculous too.

Re: Job Application Query : Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:47 am  

andym1988 wrote:

or do I simply just put in the box whatever my terms of pay were as they were set out on my contract e.g. £xx.xx p/h.

That's what I did when applying for jobs after uni. They'll understand that you haven't yet been in a salaried job.