Re: Richie Myler...... : Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:05 pm  

I haven't dished Bridge...? He isn't in the form of 2012 but he has the quality somewhere, I'd just like to see him given an opportunity to show it.

What does BS mean?

Re: Richie Myler...... : Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:35 pm  

craighaz1 wrote:

For me neither myler or ratchford are good enough to play half back in a top 4 side.
Myler- no influence on games, seldom takes on the line, terrible kicking game,all of which was hidden by Lee briers brilliance.
A poor mans danny McGuire IMO.
Ratchford-devastating in broken play,no real structure to his game, again poor kicking game,but has some x factor,which would serve him best in the centres.
I believe we need 2 new halfbacks before we grace old Trafford again.
Massive rebuilding job.
I personally would go for Dobson and burns.Monaghan and Waterhouse freeing up overseas quota for next year.

crikey when did Hull Kr grace old trafford with super star pairing Dobson and Burns...??

Michael Dobson was a stop gap for Catalan when they finished bottom of the league, he was then a stop gap for wigan While they fought off relegation. He got a full time gig at Canberra and finished in the bottom three. He then went to hull Kr and bar one season they have finished middle/bottom of the table. He has now gone to Newcastle knights as back up to a state of origin player in Jarrod Mullin and a young scrum half in Tyrone Roberts.

he's a "Stop Gap"...... we don't need one

if your ditching a former test and origin winger and a top class hooker don't replace them with journeymen like Dobson and Burns......

poor mans danny mcguire ......love off

Re: Richie Myler...... : Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:12 pm  

He knows how to get a team around the park,great organisational skills,pretty good kicking game too.
Of which myler has none.
Burns i like quite a bit because he's got that fire in his belly, a bit of mongrel. Not scared to ruffle feathers, wears his heart on his sleeve.

And both good goal kickers.
not big time Charlie's,just grafters.
Worked for Wigan.

Re: Richie Myler...... : Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:33 pm  

Chris Bridge at 6???..... - Why on earth should we do that?

Tony Smith has done many things during his time at Wire that could be considered a masterstroke, but one of his biggest was making sure Bridge never saw the stand-off position again and got moved to become a pretty decent centre (gained international honours after all).

Re: Richie Myler...... : Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:00 pm  

Fair DSM.
I said earlier that he slipped in well at centre like whittle woods davis blake have before him.
It was imo because he was next to Briers be it at 6 or at 3.
They worked so well together. Briers would look for Bridge before he would would go left.

Re: Richie Myler...... : Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:23 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

Fair DSM.
I said earlier that he slipped in well at centre like whittle woods davis blake have before him.
It was imo because he was next to Briers be it at 6 or at 3.
They worked so well together. Briers would look for Bridge before he would would go left.

I think he slipped in well at centre because he is a centre...

By your strange logic, Mark Roberts should have been a top class stand off because he worked really well with Andy Gregory....

Re: Richie Myler...... : Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:38 pm  

To be fair I can see RDs logic, I think Bridge is still when one our more dangerous players when he's in the mood but those occasions are few and far between these days and most of the time hs scares the bejeezus out of me. However, if we're judging him on an abject kicking game and suspect decision making, and apply that logic to everyone else who has lined up at 6/7 this year they'd all be sat in the South Stand and Asotasi would be lining up in the halves.

Personally I'm still hoping GOB will come good but I seem to be in a fan club of one these days.

Re: Richie Myler...... : Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:20 pm  

The issue with Bridge in the halves is it has been tried a lot and he never convinced there. I don't know where rubber duckie has got this idea that he was brilliant there. There certainly weren't many arguments on here when he got moved in to the centres.

He played over 60 games in the halves for us mostly alongside Briers. Pretty much the whole of the 2006 season and half the 2007 season he was there, as well as a few games in 2005. Obviously everyone remembers the game when he came of age at Odsal and tore them up in the second half but he did not repeat that very often, he had a handful of good games and a lot of the time he was ordinary there.

The same criticisms were made about Bridge as are made about Myler - he didn't look like he could control a game. His kicking game was nothing special, he was a good runner with the ball in his hands and could break the line but that was it. His strengths got better used when he moved to centre and it was at centre he became for a couple of seasons one of the best players in SL, at a time that coincided with us being at our peak as a team.

There was also a brief experiment of Bridge at fullback too, I think it was Cullen's last season. It was the plan to play him there, he was there in pre-season and looked good there, then he played one game and got injured for the season if I remember.

I have a lot of time for Bridge for the same reason I have a lot of time for Briers - there were loads of people writing him off saying he wasted his talent, was a problem off the field or whatever, and then he worked hard to become a top player over time and proved his doubters wrong. But I think you have to use him in the outside backs, I don't think he's a player that can run a game like Briers could. I think he might be past his peak though now.

Re: Richie Myler...... : Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:58 pm  

What is interesting here is to compare and contrast Myler & Ratchford with the halves at the two clubs who have been by far and away the best teams in the comp this year: Leeds & Saints.

Saints first choice halves, though they do tend to rotate, are Walsh & Hohaia.
Leeds' are McGuire & Sinfield.

What these have in common is a superb kicking game (Walsh & Sinfield particularly), and both are playing behind a very dominant set of forwards. Additionally they gain additional impetus from Lomax at FB for Saints, and Burrow as a utility at Leeds. Hohaia was panned by Saints fans all last year but was still considered better than Lomax, and people have been questioning Sinfield's credentials as a stand-off for years (me included) so it's hardly as if they the individuals concerned are light years ahead of everyone else.

What I do know is that on paper Ratchford & Myler are more than a match for any of those. What I also know is that on-grass they are currently a country mile off their counterparts.

Re: Richie Myler...... : Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:44 pm  

morrisseyisawire wrote: What is interesting here is to compare and contrast Myler & Ratchford with the halves at the two clubs who have been by far and away the best teams in the comp this year: Leeds & Saints. Saints first choice halves, though they do tend to rotate, are Walsh & Hohaia. Leeds' are McGuire & Sinfield. What these have in common is a superb kicking game (Walsh & Sinfield particularly), and both are playing behind a very dominant set of forwards. Additionally they gain additional impetus from Lomax at FB for Saints, and Burrow as a utility at Leeds. Hohaia was panned by Saints fans all last year but was still considered better than Lomax, and people have been questioning Sinfield's credentials as a stand-off for years (me included) so it's hardly as if they the individuals concerned are light years ahead of everyone else. What I do know is that on paper Ratchford & Myler are more than a match for any of those. What I also know is that on-grass they are currently a country mile off their counterparts. Tony Smith believes they are getting better. I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought Myler played well last week. http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... he_season/

morrisseyisawire wrote: What is interesting here is to compare and contrast Myler & Ratchford with the halves at the two clubs who have been by far and away the best teams in the comp this year: Leeds & Saints. Saints first choice halves, though they do tend to rotate, are Walsh & Hohaia. Leeds' are McGuire & Sinfield. What these have in common is a superb kicking game (Walsh & Sinfield particularly), and both are playing behind a very dominant set of forwards. Additionally they gain additional impetus from Lomax at FB for Saints, and Burrow as a utility at Leeds. Hohaia was panned by Saints fans all last year but was still considered better than Lomax, and people have been questioning Sinfield's credentials as a stand-off for years (me included) so it's hardly as if they the individuals concerned are light years ahead of everyone else. What I do know is that on paper Ratchford & Myler are more than a match for any of those. What I also know is that on-grass they are currently a country mile off their counterparts. Tony Smith believes they are getting better. I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought Myler played well last week. http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... he_season/