Re: Renewing season tickets for 2013 : Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:03 pm  

Dave Lister wrote:

Staggered by this thread. Who was the other person who voted for the first option? Where is the loyalty from anyone on here? Its no wonder that the club is on its booty when this is the state of affairs. These are the opinions from a fair cross section or perhaps some of the most allegedly "loyal" supporters, those who are interested in the club on a 7 day basis rather than just turning up every so often every other Saturday.

I will be buying a season ticket regardless of the coach, regardless of the playing staff, as this is the team that I support now, have supported in the past, and will always support in the future. This is my club. I'm not going to throw a hissy fit as we aren't in a good place at the moment as that won't help anyone at all. If anyone cares 1 jot about the club, they will get behind it and buy a season ticket next year, supporting the club as it attempts to turn things around. Refusing to buy a ST on the basis that this season has been a disaster and if Powell is perhaps in charge next year is extremely disappointing.

I don't like Powell either, what happens if say, Richard Agar is appointed? Does everyone renew their season ticket automatically? I'm really not sure what people are expecting. I am crossing my fingers that we will recruit a decent coach and some new players but my decision on whether or not to buy a season ticket will not be based upon this. I will be buying as soon as the renewal prices are released.

I have always regarded a vast number of our 'supporters' as an utter joke and this thread confirms it. We hardly have any supporters, instead we have people who like to watch Rugby League now and then and are prepared to stop following the club just like that. Fair play to the loyal ones, you know who you are

It isn't simply the issue of who is coach.

What sort of direction is this club taking? At the moment it is only a viable entity because of the largesse of a backer. Does the club management show any sign of wanting to change this? Retaining Powell (or appointing someone similarly risky and inexperienced) says the people running the club are incapable of making hard-headed business decisions. It is the same issue with regards to attracting sponsors (not having a shirt sponsor is an utter embarrassment) and the generally shambolic way the club is run, the communication with fans and marketing etc etc.

At some point, people will run out of patience. We've already heard this season that hardened fans are fed up and walking away. That isn't simply the dross being served up on the pitch - it is the wider malaise that surrounds the club. I haven't reached a point where I'm ready to give up, but I'm not, like some believist automaton, going to pump my disposable income year after year into a club that has no long-term strategy or ability to deliver results. If that makes me 'fairweather' then so be it. I'll find something else to do.

Re: Renewing season tickets for 2013 : Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:06 pm  

The club must love you Mr Lister. You seem to be able to put up with anything, what medication are you on?

Re: Renewing season tickets for 2013 : Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:11 pm  

I'll almost certainly buy, subject to finances only really. I've watched this club for a long old time and will hang on there to the bitter end, as it looks like it will be. The blunt truth is that in three seasons time it is likely my local team will be Wakefield (at this level of RL). I'll miss Superleague, I don't see any realistic hope of us re-emerging a division or two down so it's off to South Wales, Hemel or London Skolars occasionally for me. We probably have only 30 odd Superleague games left in London. I intend to make the most of it, even if sadly it will probably be a case of admiring what the opposition do and despairing of what London do.

Re: Renewing season tickets for 2013 : Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:18 pm  

Halfdan of t'wide embrace wrote:

I'll almost certainly buy, subject to finances only really. I've watched this club for a long old time and will hang on there to the bitter end, as it looks like it will be. The blunt truth is that in three seasons time it is likely my local team will be Wakefield (at this level of RL). I'll miss Superleague, I don't see any realistic hope of us re-emerging a division or two down so it's off to South Wales, Hemel or London Skolars occasionally for me. We probably have only 30 odd Superleague games left in London. I intend to make the most of it, even if sadly it will probably be a case of admiring what the opposition do and despairing of what London do.

Sad but true, I hope you are wrong, but fear you are right. Still this club has more lives than a cat and once again the improbable may just save us!

Re: Renewing season tickets for 2013 : Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:22 pm  

I'm not watching a team get humiliated every week-Simple

Re: Renewing season tickets for 2013 : Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:30 pm  

rosetintedspecs wrote:

Lister - if we dont agree with you we are not loyal fans

On this particular issue, yes. Loyal fans would support the club through thick and thin. You have decided to prioritise other things, which is absolutely fine, but you aren't a loyal supporter, like most of our followers, apparently.

Re: Renewing season tickets for 2013 : Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:39 pm  

The Penguin wrote:

It isn't simply the issue of who is coach.

I agree, but apparently the majority of this respondents on this thread do not agree, and will buy if Powell is replaced. That was the point I was getting at.

I also do not disagree with any of the issues that you raise, and I am extremely hopeful that the club attend to these. Refusing to buy a season ticket won't help the club achieve any of its objectives. Walking away after only 2 seasons of dispair is laughable to be honest. If this had gone on for 10 years then maybe I could understand it. But these so called loyal, long term supporters who have followed the club for 10+ years, throwing everything away because of a single dodgy period in our history that could be exactly that in less than a years time - history.

Its nothing about believist automation - I buy a season ticket every year because I love supporting the professional game of Rugby League in the South and hope that one day things come good and we enjoy some success. Does that make me a believist? I am prepared to make a commitment to the game rather than picking and choosing my game and boasting on here when I have decided to not take up the train journey I have booked to an away game in favour of sitting on my sofa scratching my booty and feeling smug about the amateur game I am going to attend instead.

For some, the professional London Rugby League club is more than just a weekend activity and I would shed a tear if the club were to go under, without shame. Others will simply move on and find something else to do. I would be numb. But that is just different levels of preference I guess.

Re: Renewing season tickets for 2013 : Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:40 pm  

Dave Lister wrote:

On this particular issue, yes. Loyal fans would support the club through thick and thin. You have decided to prioritise other things, which is absolutely fine, but you aren't a loyal supporter, like most of our followers, apparently.

You seem to like to take the contrary position, but loyalty should not be blind. The club is throwing itself off a methophorical cliff. A majority on here seem to be expressing the view that they do not find that acceptable. We have very little leverage over the club, we write and get told of a review but with no outcome. If the thought of more fans walking away causes a reaction then I do not consider that unloyal.

Re: Renewing season tickets for 2013 : Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:42 pm  

poplar panther wrote:

The club must love you Mr Lister. You seem to be able to put up with anything, what medication are you on?

I won't be knee jerking because of two bad seasons out of 30 plus. Some football fans will go through decades of depression, winning nothing, having no hope, yet their loyal supporters will turn out week on week as the club is their passion. I see that in very few of our supporters.

Re: Renewing season tickets for 2013 : Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:44 pm  

jbuzza wrote:

You seem to like to take the contrary position, but loyalty should not be blind. The club is throwing itself off a methophorical cliff. A majority on here seem to be expressing the view that they do not find that acceptable. We have very little leverage over the club, we write and get told of a review but with no outcome. If the thought of more fans walking away causes a reaction then I do not consider that unloyal.

Of course they don't find it acceptable, neither do I, but withdrawing my support will not make 1 bit of difference in helping the club in the future. It will only have a negative impact and make things worse.