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Post Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:03 pm
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RED1 wrote:
Some people on facebook site have asked club to comment and they said 'we dont comment on rumours'. Which to some extent I understand. However, the rumours are KILLING the club and causing unrest amongst fans and breeding negativity.

Surely it would be better to say, ok we have heard all rumours, this is the truth and just set the record straight. That way, even if its bad, it may galvanise the fans into helping the situation and the people of salford may rally round to save the club.


Spot on! :CLAP:
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Post Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:45 am
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DogPie wrote:
The situation at Salford is not good at all. The club will be lucky to crawl across the line until the end of the season without hitting administration. God only knows what will happen next season. Wigan have really helped Salford by taking Matty Smith in order to clear the debt owed to Daniel Holdsworth. They gave Salford over the odds more as a favour to Salford to get them out of the you know what. Normally, Salford would have perhaps taken a couple of fringe players at Wigan in return, but they couldn’t afford to pay them. Back to Holdsworth, he really wants out for next season. He is targeting a return to Australia and has made certain people over there aware of this fact. The club is in a mess. It has been poorly managed for years as we all know, and it is catching up fast. Those running it day to day, from the top, over the last few years have to take responsibility now. Nobody wants to invest in or buy the club. It’s not as bad as what is happening at Bradford, but it’s pretty bad all the same. This isn’t something that Forever Reds will be able to sort out either. It’s too much for a quick fan bailout, and they don’t have the clout. This needs a serious investor and fast.



BIGGEST crock of poop ever wrote on here! You know fuckall
this will not be the end, or even the beginning of the end.
It is merely the end of the beginning
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Post Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:33 pm
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DOGPIE: Look around you Salford are doing well to survive in a market where 99% of all super league clubs are losing money. Reality check :IDEA:

Give the club some credit for getting a great deal from Matty Smith who would have gone in two months time, possibly saved a substantial amount of money, in my business books good business :CLAP:

Try & focus on some of the positives this season instead of focusing on negativity :DANCE:

Our club is not in the best position but no different to many other clubs, if you have the golden handshake or know a good oil sheik please step forward. :thumb:
Post Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:56 am
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I'm not sure that Wigan did us a 'favour' so to speak... They did need Smith now obviously due to the injury situation... but I am lead to believe that the amount they gave Salford was over the odds considering the number of games left, and that amount was seen as a gesture of goodwill rather than a 'favour'.

As for the situation at the club... We all know that things are a bit 'messy'... and while we aren't signing players... and we are letting players go and selling players mid season... people are always going to ask questions and speculate about the financial side of the club.

Holdsworth clearly wants out... He's not a happy bunny... But I'm not telling anybody anything we don't already know.

So while we can all speculate, and ask questions... until there is some clarification from the club, then this will continue and we will go on listening to... and reading posts from people who may or may not know something.

So it's time for the club to step up for a change and tell us if only to set minds at rest... and by this... don't pay us lip service... don't do it in the form of an article in the Manchester Evening News, as this can often be messed about with and not tell us the full story... Do it in the form of an open evening... we have a facility which is good enough to sit us all down for a couple of hours to speak informatively. A lot has happened since the move from The Willows, and too many of us are in the dark as to what is really happening.... The truth is not difficult... it shouldn't be a secret... just tell it as it is... Most of us are grown ups.
Post Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:12 pm
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Early Bath wrote:
`The situation at Salford is not good at all. The club will be lucky to crawl across the line until the end of the season without hitting administration. God only knows what will happen next season.`

Well for a man in such a privileged position as yourself I find the criticism metered out beyond belief. When did you last pay for a seat at Salford instead of sitting cosily in the Press Box?

`Wigan have really helped Salford by taking Matty Smith in order to clear the debt owed to Daniel Holdsworth. They gave Salford over the odds more as a favour to Salford to get them out of the you know what. Normally, Salford would have perhaps taken a couple of fringe players at Wigan in return, but they couldn’t afford to pay them. `

Staggered that a man in your well paid employment does not understand business in this day & age. Matty was off to Wigan at the end of the season in any event yet Salford with good business acumen have obtained a good transfer fee which they would never have received in two months time.

`Back to Holdsworth, he really wants out for next season. He is targeting a return to Australia and has made certain people over there aware of this fact. `

If you had spoken to the man instead of asking other people not close to him then you may have found out the truth.

`The club is in a mess.`

Every club bar 3 in the whole of RL are in a similar position. The game as a whole is in a Financial mess so why isolate Salford?

`It has been poorly managed for years as we all know, and it is catching up fast. Those running it day to day, from the top, over the last few years have to take responsibility now. `

How do you know that? Have you looked at the Accounts? Have you seen the monies put in by the long suffering Board to enable you to even write about our club?

`Nobody wants to invest in or buy the club. `

How do you know that? Do you know the deal the Board may offer YOU to take over and run this great club? May I suggest that before you write such drivel that you think what you want to say in future.

`It’s not as bad as what is happening at Bradford, but it’s pretty bad all the same.
This isn’t something that Forever Reds will be able to sort out either. It’s too much for a quick fan bailout, and they don’t have the clout. This needs a serious investor and fast`

Forever Reds could be the way forward as it happens long term however any serious investor would only look at Companies making PROFITS and with substantial assets. Salford doesnt fit that criteria BUT it has an income stream & a decent team which would be VERY attractive to an outside business partner starting from scratch. He/She would look at the overall situation and make his/her own plans which could be acceptable to the current Board who I am sure would stand aside providing solid guarantees are given to them in lieu.

So Mr B - don`t come on here pontificating and berating people who have been providing your living for the last 10 years. Why you have come on here to do that is beyond belief.


You think I'm Barker from the MEN. Sorry, but you are way off the mark. Christ, I know he isn't the best writer in the world, but you could have called me something less hurtful. lol

Seriously and truthfully, I am not him. I'm not exactly going to tell you, but I promise you, I'm not Neil barker.
Post Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:27 pm
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DogPie wrote:
You think I'm Barker from the MEN. Sorry, but you are way off the mark. Christ, I know he isn't the best writer in the world, but you could have called me something less hurtful. lol

Seriously and truthfully, I am not him. I'm not exactly going to tell you, but I promise you, I'm not Neil barker.


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Post Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:31 pm
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LoyalFan wrote:
I'm not sure that Wigan did us a 'favour' so to speak... They did need Smith now obviously due to the injury situation... but I am lead to believe that the amount they gave Salford was over the odds considering the number of games left, and that amount was seen as a gesture of goodwill rather than a 'favour'.

A favour is "goodwill a kind or helpful act"

As for the situation at the club... We all know that things are a bit 'messy'... and while we aren't signing players... and we are letting players go and selling players mid season... people are always going to ask questions and speculate about the financial side of the club.

Holdsworth clearly wants out... He's not a happy bunny... But I'm not telling anybody anything we don't already know.

How has Houldsworth clearly shown that he wants out?I am not on twitter by the way.

So while we can all speculate, and ask questions... until there is some clarification from the club, then this will continue and we will go on listening to... and reading posts from people who may or may not know something.

I agree.

So it's time for the club to step up for a change and tell us if only to set minds at rest... and by this... don't pay us lip service... don't do it in the form of an article in the Manchester Evening News, as this can often be messed about with and not tell us the full story... Do it in the form of an open evening... we have a facility which is good enough to sit us all down for a couple of hours to speak informatively. A lot has happened since the move from The Willows, and too many of us are in the dark as to what is really happening.... The truth is not difficult... it shouldn't be a secret... just tell it as it is... Most of us are grown ups.


I agree with most of this its just that some of the ones that are not grown ups have been seen giving the MEN their scoops and Mr B has been doctoring their comments up, they were tittle tattle to start with and complete rubbish mainly once in the paper
Post Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:46 pm
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DogPie wrote:
Early Bath wrote:
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So Mr B - don`t come on here pontificating and berating people who have been providing your living for the last 10 years. Why you have come on here to do that is beyond belief.


You think I'm Barker from the MEN. Sorry, but you are way off the mark. Christ, I know he isn't the best writer in the world, but you could have called me something less hurtful. lol

Seriously and truthfully, I am not him. I'm not exactly going to tell you, but I promise you, I'm not Neil barker.


Well we will have to rename you Neil Porkey then
Post Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:11 pm
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With the CEO gone I don't know who will be dealing with sponsorship but it seems Vodafone are extricating themselves from sponsorship of fast cars and other sports mentioned in the comments
When they sponsored Manchester United they wanted a global brand which reached into the Far East.
Possibly,now,they may want to reach other areas - maybe places where rugby league is now played
With some people connected with 'Jamaica Reds'? offering us support on the Facebook page the current Jamaican National coach appears to be from the north west Craig Richards Jamaica did want some sponsorship some years ago.
Vodafone have,in the past,gone for naming rights,for a stadium story
While the contacts for Vodafone and Manchester United may have moved on it was quite interesting to read the 9 pages of the requirements and advantages of sponsorship
It turns out that the current CEO was born in Manchester and has a property in the south of France so may know about rugby league.If Vodafone do better business in rugby league playing Germany and Italy they may need to boost sales in the other rugby league playing European places.
It's gotta be cheaper sponsorship than everything else they have tried.
I would like to think we try first.
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Post Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:47 pm
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SCR-SeaDiver wrote:
With the CEO gone I don't know who will be dealing with sponsorship but it seems Vodafone are extricating themselves from sponsorship of fast cars and other sports mentioned in the comments
When they sponsored Manchester United they wanted a global brand which reached into the Far East.
Possibly,now,they may want to reach other areas - maybe places where rugby league is now played
With some people connected with 'Jamaica Reds'? offering us support on the Facebook page the current Jamaican National coach appears to be from the north west Craig Richards Jamaica did want some sponsorship some years ago.
Vodafone have,in the past,gone for naming rights,for a stadium story
While the contacts for Vodafone and Manchester United may have moved on it was quite interesting to read the 9 pages of the requirements and advantages of sponsorship
It turns out that the current CEO was born in Manchester and has a property in the south of France so may know about rugby league.If Vodafone do better business in rugby league playing Germany and Italy they may need to boost sales in the other rugby league playing European places.
It's gotta be cheaper sponsorship than everything else they have tried.
I would like to think we try first.

That is possibly the maddest thing I've ever read.
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