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Budgiezilla wrote: Why is the (so called) gap so big now ? Part of it is maybe, that when there was PROMOTION & RELEGATION, the likes of Leigh, Whitehaven, Widnes, Salford, Hull KR, Cas, Wakefield had full time squads, or some of the players were. Some Promoted clubs 1st season in SL stats: (1999) Wakefield Wildcats...20 points 11th/14 clubs (2002) Widnes Vikings....29 points 7th/12 clubs (2003) Huddersfield Giants....23 points 10th/12 clubs (2004) SalfordCity Reds ...16 points 9th/12 clubs (2006) Castleford Tigers ...19 points 11th/12 clubs (but relegated to protect Catalan Dragons !!) (2007) Hull KR ....20 points 11th/12 clubs NOT EVERY SIDE DID A LEIGH CENTURIONS SUPER LEAGUE 2005 CAMPAIGN !!!  And if there was P&R this year, how much interest would that generate for London 6pts , Widnes 8pts and Cas 10pts. It would be exciting at both ends of the table.
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OK! Just thought I'd ask and see whether I would get the usual response. You did,t let me down!!!!!!
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Budgiezilla wrote: Why is the (so called) gap so big now ? Part of it is maybe, that when there was PROMOTION & RELEGATION, the likes of Leigh, Whitehaven, Widnes, Salford, Hull KR, Cas, Wakefield had full time squads, or some of the players were. Some Promoted clubs 1st season in SL stats: (1999) Wakefield Wildcats...20 points 11th/14 clubs (2002) Widnes Vikings....29 points 7th/12 clubs (2003) Huddersfield Giants....23 points 10th/12 clubs (2004) SalfordCity Reds ...16 points 9th/12 clubs (2006) Castleford Tigers ...19 points 11th/12 clubs (but relegated to protect Catalan Dragons !!) (2007) Hull KR ....20 points 11th/12 clubs NOT EVERY SIDE DID A LEIGH CENTURIONS SUPER LEAGUE 2005 CAMPAIGN !!! What about Fax........didnt they finish on 0 points?
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leytherjay wrote: What about Fax........didnt they finish on 0 points? They were already in SDL......think they won one or two, but then had points deduction for going into administration mid season....or was it salary cap?? Either way, they were already in SDL. The point that was being made, was that not all promoted clubs die on their arses in the first season in SDL!! We were the victims of a system that gave us about three months to put a squad together....months after everyone else in the division had sorted their squads out!! The other thing that must be considered is that most of the teams listed were already full-time set-ups, and in the case of Hudds/Salford/Cas remained so during their 'gap years' outside SDL.
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The bottom line problem is the bottom line. Championship clubs are p/t, have a salary cap of £400k, and a turnover of £750k, or thereabouts. SL clubs have a salary cap of £1.75m, plus £50k on Academy, and a turnover of £2.5m +. Clubs can't go from one to t'other, and back again, with 4 months' notice. Best option, medium term, would be two full time divisions...
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Super League 1 and 2
One up one down each year
Equitable distribution of the sky money
Scrap the franchise system
Scrap the dual contract system
One more meaningful cup competition
Reintroduce the lancs v yorks game and promote it well
Realise that RL will never work in London
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Wembley71 wrote: The bottom line problem is the bottom line. Championship clubs are p/t, have a salary cap of £400k, and a turnover of £750k, or thereabouts. SL clubs have a salary cap of £1.75m, plus £50k on Academy, and a turnover of £2.5m +. Clubs can't go from one to t'other, and back again, with 4 months' notice. Best option, medium term, would be two full time divisions... and the closer we can get to making SL larger - ie 16 FT teams, the closer we get to looking at a franchised competition with SL1 and SL2 with P&R between them.
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ExiledLeythr wrote: Super League 1 and 2
One up one down each year
Equitable distribution of the sky money
Scrap the franchise system
Scrap the dual contract system
One more meaningful cup competition
Reintroduce the lancs v yorks game and promote it well
Realise that RL will never work in London Great idea
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It would have to be an East vs West game as we would have players and teams from areas other than Lancs and Yorks.
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Leeeigh Leeeigh wrote: and the closer we can get to making SL larger - ie 16 FT teams, the closer we get to looking at a franchised competition with SL1 and SL2 with P&R between them. But there isn't enough good players to support a 14 team Super League.
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