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and also, LOL at the Raptors for giving that amount of money to Landry Fields. I realise it was to try and block their move for Nash, but that's just backfired horribly imo.

inside_man wrote:

I think DWill is twice the player Westbrook is though. At least twice the point guard.

Having Williams alongside him will push Johnson up to 20+ ppg without breaking a sweat.

Williams has been forgotten, there's no doubt about that, but part of the reason for that is because of players like Westbrook and Rose. Williams is clearly a better distributor, but Westbrook is a better defender, better athlete and probably a more capable scorer across the board. Harden is already better than Johnson IMO.

I just can't get my head around the Johnson trade. Yes, he's a good player and Brooklyn desperately want them, but he just doesn't strike me as a champion, or even a potential champion. He's smooth, stylish and certainly capable, but he seems a few notches below the superstars of the world. IMO, those two players will clearly improve them, but there are still many questions to be asked and answered.

Roddy B wrote:

I just can't get my head around the Johnson trade. Yes, he's a good player and Brooklyn desperately want them, but he just doesn't strike me as a champion, or even a potential champion. He's smooth, stylish and certainly capable, but he seems a few notches below the superstars of the world. IMO, those two players will clearly improve them, but there are still many questions to be asked and answered.

Nets asked him who he wanted to play with, Joe Johnson was one of the names on his list. They went and got him, he re-signed.

So from what I can gather...

Magic get Brook Lopez, Luke Walton, 2 1dp from Nets, 1dp from Clippers.

Nets get Dwight + Scrap.

Cleveland get Humphries in a S+T

Clippers get MarShon Brooks.


Aside from the obvious Nets/Magic, Cleveland and Clippers are both getting great deals outa this. Cleveland get to wave goodbye to Walton and his rank contract and get a very decent player in his place. Clippers get a promising SG for what is effectively going to be a pretty late 1st dp.

Brooks could be a solid player for the Clippers. Nice skills, good playmaker and his offense will continue to develop playing next to Paul. The Clippers need a centre though as well as re-signing Kenyon Martin.

Roddy B wrote:

Brooks could be a solid player for the Clippers. Nice skills, good playmaker and his offense will continue to develop playing next to Paul. The Clippers need a centre though as well as re-signing Kenyon Martin.

I wouldn't have Kenyon Martin as a priority anymore though, Odom would takeover his role off the bench imo.

Definately need a backup centre though, Clips have that much depth I could easily see them flipping Brooks along with Bledsoe and Butler for a big name like Iguodala.

inside_man wrote:

I wouldn't have Kenyon Martin as a priority anymore though, Odom would takeover his role off the bench imo.

Definately need a backup centre though, Clips have that much depth I could easily see them flipping Brooks along with Bledsoe and Butler for a big name like Iguodala.

I've said before, the Clippers could really do with a player like Thabo Sefolosha, a guard that can shoot but ultimately defend to a stupendous level. Iguodala is a great player but I don't think he'd be worth it. I think Martin provides good experience and defence, something Blake and Jordan can struggle with. Odom is solid but his consistency isn't there, they need all the depth they can get. Odom and Butler could be enough at small forward, but I'm not a big fan of Butler. He doesn't bring it often enough, he seems to take it easy too often and makes the Clippers play predictably.

With Blake and CP3, they're settled for superstars, whilst Odom and Bledsoe are great players off the bench that are versatile enough to play two positions. Jordan is in dire need of somebody to teach him defence, would Camby be a good option for a year or two for them at centre? Billups will be back at the 2 with Brooks in there possibly, whilst Odom/Butler are solid at the three. Bigs off the bench is what they really crave, I would say go for Blair if he's available but I do wonder if he's big enough, especially with Blake not being the biggest. He's the type of player they could do with though, high character, somebody who'll bring his all every night.

Cambys gone back to NY.

Agree with regards to Butler though, was a solid enough piece when they were just trying to get in the playoffs but if they are to try and go deep then not sure he's good enough. Someone like Batum isn't going for much more money and he'd be huge upgrade on Butler.

Jeremy Lin - do NY match or not?

No way imo, $14mil in the 3rd year is a no go. Especially now you've got a pretty decent PG combo in Felton + Kidd.

And as for not matching Fields' offer, that was just stupid money. Bet Fields and his Agent were laughing all the way to the bank.

NY won't match the Rockets offer. Would be hit for $85 million in luxury tax in the 3rd year. No way.