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Post Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:54 pm
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so far for me this season its been x2 season tickets,x2 sponser a player,x2 £100 pledge,think iv'e done my bit so i will be using my season ticket,unless it becomes invalid. bet tinfoil wont be dipping into his pocket to watch the match .
Post Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:05 pm
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I'm compromising....

I'm using the season ticket but going to take the Mrs and one of my daughters for their first game of the year. Told them it might be their last trip to Odsal for a while
Post Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:11 pm
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To the best of my recollection, Guilfoyle most definitely did NOT ask season ticket holders to pay.

I was ten feet from him, and paying close attention.

In fact, he seemed to go out of his way to at best skirt round the question. His final comment on the subject was along the lines of "well if any dedicated fans feel they want to pay, thats fine - happy days". I presume the actual words will be on the to-yube clips.

And IMO he would have been a fool to ask or even suggest it. Why? Because that would be no different, in all practical senses, to the pledge. And, if the club sill goes to the wall, the very last thing he would want would be an army of angry fans demanding their money back, saying they had been talked into paying under false pretenses.

And part of his reply would probably anyway be along the lines of "We have no records of who paid and who did not, so we are in no position to determine if you have any claim".

Don't forget too that it is quite possible (and legal) that any surplus cash could be applied to paying some of his fees and costs.

And nothing above is meant to be any criticism of Guilfoyle - quite the opposite. I felt he handled that issue in a professional and astute manner - left the door open if folk still want to pay, but the caveats were implied and he never said anything that could be see as seeking people to do that. His alternative plea - bring more (paying) people - was totally the correct and proper approach IMO.

Think about it?

Incidentally, I have no intention whatsoever of paying twice. Not as a protest; not because of who may or may not gain control; partly because I paid nearly a grand in total last time, so I fell I have done my bit anyway; but especially because the administrator made it reasonably clear he can put the game on without requiring it, and so any such funds could IMO be better applied to something that the fans had more control over.
Post Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:58 am
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Post Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:57 am
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As the main creditor in this mess is HMRC then in an indirect way tax payers - a catagory most of the posters here fall into - will be picking up the tab.

I was in two minds about paying at the weekend but as one way or another something is going to happen in the next week - new owner or liquidation - then I don't think a few more £ from me at the weekend really makes any difference?

If I thought the money was going to the coaching team or the players - well that would be different - and if anybody does organise a collection for these heros I will definitely contribute. And I also suspect there is going to be the need to do a lot of rebuilding work so I will keep my powder dry till there is a bit more clarity on the situation. Fingers crossed again!
Post Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:07 am
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Adeybull wrote:
To the best of my recollection, Guilfoyle most definitely did NOT ask season ticket holders to pay.


http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/9793878.Bradford_Bulls_administrator_denies_any_plot_to_buy_club_on_the_cheap/

Season ticket holders agreed to pay again at the turnstiles after the administrator said an attendance of 5,000 would generate cash towards paying the club’s wage bill for July. Supporters also offered to help staff turnstiles and provide security at the game.


Whether he said it outright or not he certainly insinuated it Adey, the message came over loud and clear.
Post Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:16 am
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Northern Lad wrote:
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/9793878.Bradford_Bulls_administrator_denies_any_plot_to_buy_club_on_the_cheap/

Whether he said it outright or not he certainly insinuated it Adey, the message came over loud and clear.


He didn't. Not at the meeting.

The meeting most definitely did NOT agree to pay on the gate. There was no vote and no request.

Various people OFFERED to, especially amongst those near the front, and I reported above - as best as I can recall - Guilfoyle's response.
Post Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:24 am
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Im using my season ticket, (paid for it, pledged well over £100, held buckets etc) but, I've made a point to pursuade someone who never goes to come along, so they'll be paying on the gate as an extra and I'm hoping to go spend more than the entrance fee in the club shop....providing its open and staffed.
Post Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:25 am
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Will not be paying!

However, I understand most of the staff sacked this week will be attending the game. So I will give my money to one of them, most of them on not big salaries.
Post Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:26 am
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Adeybull wrote:
He didn't. Not at the meeting.

The meeting most definitely did NOT agree to pay on the gate. There was no vote and no request.

Various people OFFERED to, especially amongst those near the front, and I reported above - as best as I can recall - Guilfoyle's response.


My recall as well
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