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Tre Cool wrote:
Do you think theyd let us play an otr game there next year? Looks like a great venue and has worked well in Oz playing TGG at cricket venues. Marketers dream too (get lost Gutterfax) as never been done before to my knowledge. Oval ball at the Oval?
It is a great venue, and Surrey CCC seem fairly innovative and proactive with marketing initiatives. (I think they'd do what they could to get the punters in even if our own club showed its usual inertia in that respect.) Unfortunately I think the clash of seasons would rule it out. Last day of cricket there this season is 7 September, and there's no way they'd let any code of football use it any earlier in the year than that. You're really only looking at October or November in terms of availability I think. If the Superleague season began and ended a month later it might be a goer.
Capacity is 23,500 and virtually the whole ground has been rebuilt during the last 25 years, so it's a fairly state of the art cricket ground these days with great corporate and members' facilities.
I saw the last Aussie Rules match there in October 2006 between Geelong and Port Adelaide and enjoyed it - I think it pulled around 15,000. (I'm not sure why it hasn't happened again since then, but don't think it's down to SCCC not wanting it.)
There's a football match due to be played there in early November this year between Royal Engineers and The Wanderers; the two clubs that contested the first ever FA Cup Final on the same ground in 1872.
The Oval probably has the best public transport links of any major sports ground in England. Only a couple of miles from the centre of the capital, it's got its own tube station with direct links to London Bridge, Waterloo, Euston and King's Cross, while Vauxhall tube/train station is only five minutes walk away, and there are various bus routes going in all directions.
Not sure I'd really want to watch RL in a cricket ground though. You'd be a long way from the action on at least some sides, depending exactly where the pitch was marked out. The Aussie Rules used the whole of the field and was marked out diagonally to the line of the cricket stumps.
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London Broncos RL could played their 2012 home fixtures v St Helens, Huddlesfield (sic), Castleford, Wakefield, Bradford, Hull FC, Widnes and Catalans at the Oval, one after the other and still there would have been 1,237 EMPTY SEATS
Why, on gods blessed earth, would anyone want to take a game to a stadium that holds 23,500 when we are averaging less than 3,000
dally messenger wrote:
was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have
eels fan wrote:
You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.
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gutterfax wrote:
London Broncos RL could played their 2012 home fixtures v St Helens, Huddlesfield (sic), Castleford, Wakefield, Bradford, Hull FC, Widnes and Catalans at the Oval, one after the other and still there would have been 1,237 EMPTY SEATS
Why, on gods blessed earth, would anyone want to take a game to a stadium that holds 23,500 when we are averaging less than 3,000
To make an event? To encourage more fans to come? To do something original? Here comes the 14 point stat laden drivel from Gutterfax......
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Tre Cool wrote:
To make an event? To encourage more fans to come? To do something original? Here comes the 14 point stat laden drivel from Gutterfax......
Tell me, with the RL Pixies replace the cheerleaders at this "event"?
dally messenger wrote:
was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have
eels fan wrote:
You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.
Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2003 8:33 am Posts: 15862 Location: The Shaky Isles
Tre Cool wrote:
Why do empty seats matter? Doesnt bother most of the sides in the nrl or north of england.
David hughes puts ₤1,500,000 of his own cash into the club every year.....7,528 is the average attendance needed to replace his money when he goes in 2014.......Ian Lenegan said every occupied seat was worth about ₤9.80 to the club. He also said that each fan was worth another ₤15 in revenue on match day. 2,876 is the average this year at the clubs "home" games 13 games a season, that's ₤366,402.40 in Gate receipts and another ₤560,820 in residuals.
Get your crowds up to 10,000 a game...that's an extra ₤907,597.60 in gate receipts and an extra ₤1,389,180 in residuals......
...that's why empty seats matter.
NRL clubs...Canberra are the worst supported...10,000 is their average and the current NRL TV deal is more for 1 season than SL gets for 5..... SL Clubs......funnily enough, when priced and promoted well, they seem to do OK. Leeds, Wigan, Hull FC, Wire, Catalans....all average over 10k.....the others at least make the effort.
dally messenger wrote:
was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have
eels fan wrote:
You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.
Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:04 am Posts: 5077 Location: on my way to save the world
gutterfax wrote:
David hughes puts ₤1,500,000 of his own cash into the club every year.....7,528 is the average attendance needed to replace his money when he goes in 2014.......Ian Lenegan said every occupied seat was worth about ₤9.80 to the club. He also said that each fan was worth another ₤15 in revenue on match day. 2,876 is the average this year at the clubs "home" games 13 games a season, that's ₤366,402.40 in Gate receipts and another ₤560,820 in residuals.
Get your crowds up to 10,000 a game...that's an extra ₤907,597.60 in gate receipts and an extra ₤1,389,180 in residuals......
...that's why empty seats matter.
NRL clubs...Canberra are the worst supported...10,000 is their average and the current NRL TV deal is more for 1 season than SL gets for 5..... SL Clubs......funnily enough, when priced and promoted well, they seem to do OK. Leeds, Wigan, Hull FC, Wire, Catalans....all average over 10k.....the others at least make the effort.
I didnt say attendances dont matter. No need to roll out the stats netball boy. I said empty seats dont matter.
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