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Good reference there about steakknife i also wondered about DMW .
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I had suggested that in war you choose the side you are on and have to accept the good and the bad consequences of that. Something i have never shied away from particularly the death of all the innocent civillians. Unlike you however i can see with two eyes rather than one and recognise that terrible actions were carried out by both sides. You however only seem to see the actions of one side and choose to condemn them.
That happened the day after A Loyalist gang made up of UVF members , a police man and a soldier among others had killed 6 catholics. This gang the Glananne gang killed 250 catholics over a number of years. The IRA was drawn into this and killed a number of Protestants as retaliation ( approximately 90 killed). This would suggest that the Protestant paramilitaries with the active invovement of Police officers and British soldiers were 2 and a half times worse than than the Republicans. However , the attack you mention i believe was carried out by members of INLA and nothing to do with Adams or McGuinness.
Was this not the Real IRA trying to undermine the peace process being pushed by Adams and McGuinness.
Again a terrible tragedy that innocent civillians were killed following a botched attempt to kill members of the an army. However the IRA brigade that carried it out were suspended from active service for the rest of the troubles. The bombing actually helped push the peace procee as Sinn Fein realised that the continuing deaths of civillians was no longer justifiable.
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I think it is accepted that Gerry Adams set up the unit that dealt with suspected informants and Jean McConvilles death was probably his responsibility
You seem to place all the responsibility as do others on here at the hands of McGuinness and Adams and the Republican movement. We have got to 14 pages and hardly a mention of what Nationalists in Ireland had to experience. The Sectarian killings were started by Loyalists and then retaliated against by Nationalists. The Shankhil butchers are an example of what Catholics had to experience but then again i suppose that is all the fault of the Republicans as well.
I suppose if those pesky nationalists had not demanded civil rights and an end to discrimination then all of this would not have happened. Why could they not just accept second class status instead of antagonising those nice orangemen and their bowler hats who just like a nice stroll in the park.
Same with those uppity niggers in America if they had not started wanting to be treated equally they would not have upset those nice farmers in the souith who ended up having to waste their bed linen making nice little white halloween suits.
Had the Nationalists simply targeted the RUC and the British Military, possibly even members of the Government, then there may be some credence in that point of view.
Although, for me personally, the ideal of a "fair war" does raise a smile, and is the sort of fruit bat loopery the likes of Durham would come out with. Admitedly he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, that would be a stakeknife eh Durham?
Although, for me personally, the ideal of a "fair war" does raise a smile, and is the sort of fruit bat loopery the likes of Durham would come out with. Admitedly he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, that would be a stakeknife eh Durham?
Good reference there about steakknife i also wondered about DMW .
However, you cannot conveniently ignore for the sake of your own conscience, the many cruel acts and sectarian violence they wrought on the civilian population in Northern Ireland and beyond, from their political aspirations
I had suggested that in war you choose the side you are on and have to accept the good and the bad consequences of that. Something i have never shied away from particularly the death of all the innocent civillians. Unlike you however i can see with two eyes rather than one and recognise that terrible actions were carried out by both sides. You however only seem to see the actions of one side and choose to condemn them.
What was the political point they were trying to make at Kingsmill in 1976 when they stopped a minibus taking workers home and massacred the 10 Protestants onboard?...
That happened the day after A Loyalist gang made up of UVF members , a police man and a soldier among others had killed 6 catholics. This gang the Glananne gang killed 250 catholics over a number of years. The IRA was drawn into this and killed a number of Protestants as retaliation ( approximately 90 killed). This would suggest that the Protestant paramilitaries with the active invovement of Police officers and British soldiers were 2 and a half times worse than than the Republicans. However , the attack you mention i believe was carried out by members of INLA and nothing to do with Adams or McGuinness.
.. Omagh?
Was this not the Real IRA trying to undermine the peace process being pushed by Adams and McGuinness.
..... Inniskillen?
Again a terrible tragedy that innocent civillians were killed following a botched attempt to kill members of the an army. However the IRA brigade that carried it out were suspended from active service for the rest of the troubles. The bombing actually helped push the peace procee as Sinn Fein realised that the continuing deaths of civillians was no longer justifiable.
..... the many people who simply disappeared after being taken away for a chat by that killing Unit commanded by Gerry Adams?
Hopefully though, the JEAN McConville killing will come back to bite the master revisionist on the booty. Incidentally, that's my favourite photo of the pair of them
Hopefully though, the JEAN McConville killing will come back to bite the master revisionist on the booty. Incidentally, that's my favourite photo of the pair of them
I think it is accepted that Gerry Adams set up the unit that dealt with suspected informants and Jean McConvilles death was probably his responsibility
I readily acknowledge the conditions that Catholics had to live under in NI in the sixties were deplorable, and had to change. I also understand the particular sectarian edge that Irish history brings into the equation, and the easy and quick acceptance of violence as simply another option. Adams made that clear with his "Armalite and the Ballot box" spiel.
But if you have enough personal conviction to join a terrorist organisation in pursuit of those ideals, then don't complain if the by your actions you meet somebody in uniform, armed with a large rifle, and with the authority of HM Government coming towards you.
Milltown is full of those who failed to understand the meaning of the word, consequences
But if you have enough personal conviction to join a terrorist organisation in pursuit of those ideals, then don't complain if the by your actions you meet somebody in uniform, armed with a large rifle, and with the authority of HM Government coming towards you.
Milltown is full of those who failed to understand the meaning of the word, consequences
You seem to place all the responsibility as do others on here at the hands of McGuinness and Adams and the Republican movement. We have got to 14 pages and hardly a mention of what Nationalists in Ireland had to experience. The Sectarian killings were started by Loyalists and then retaliated against by Nationalists. The Shankhil butchers are an example of what Catholics had to experience but then again i suppose that is all the fault of the Republicans as well.
I suppose if those pesky nationalists had not demanded civil rights and an end to discrimination then all of this would not have happened. Why could they not just accept second class status instead of antagonising those nice orangemen and their bowler hats who just like a nice stroll in the park.
Same with those uppity niggers in America if they had not started wanting to be treated equally they would not have upset those nice farmers in the souith who ended up having to waste their bed linen making nice little white halloween suits.
