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Jake the Peg wrote:

Actually, the real issue is who has the most of the ball at given times in the game. We've seen more this season than ever before that games can swing dramatically when teams get a run of posession. Maybe the reduced interchanges is affetcing things and defences are struggling to hold teams for multiple sets. Refs do seem to get caught up in things and amplify the effect by penalising defending teams when the attacking team gets on top. Certainly at the etihad, rovers had overwhelming posession in the 2nd half and it told in the end

I agree with what your saying, once a team gets a roll on these days its virtually impossible to stop, the quick play the ball seems to bring out the worst in refs lol. You mentioned our game with warrington, that was the same when we got a roll on, they gave penalty after penalty away trying to stop us, one things for sure though, we can't keep giving top sides these big leads as like last night we can't always come back.

Easty wrote:

You didn't listen to the game last night then?

Latus drops a ball near own line under no pressure and Saints score. Horne drops ball under no real pressure when on attack, Saints go upfield and score on tackle one. Saints kick on the last near our try line Green for some bizarre reason keeps the ball in play and Saints score. Latus gets across to make a tackle near the corner but gets swatted off like a fly in a tackle a four year old should make, Saints score.

Saints had no right to score these tries and we shouldn't have gone 26-0 down. Possession had nothing to do with it. It was concentration which we lacked for 25 minutes.

Interesting that saints coach says they switched off and sandy blames the bus break down

St Helens coach Mike Rush:

"At 26-0 up, we were playing the best 30 minutes since we took over the coaching. But mentally we switched off and made a couple of errors and gifted them a try. I am at a loss to what happened, but we are going to have to watch the video and fix it.

"We've defended pretty well generally, but today we haven't and we need to address it. But we're confident in ourselves and were never going to give up.

"The two tries in the end showed that. It is pleasing, as we approach the business end, that we can pull something out like that."

Hull KR coach Craig Sandercock:

"I am very disappointed at losing. Our start was unacceptable, but we were good enough to get back into it. Once we got an even share of the ball we showed we were a decent footie side.

"We had the game in our grasp but, just at the end, we were not quite good enough to get the rewards to cap what would have been a special comeback.

"We were flat at the start because we had spent six and a half hours on the bus because our coach broke down. We wanted the game to be delayed by 10 minutes but the match commissioner would not do that. It takes time to get athletes rubbed and strapped and ready to play a physical sport."

[PAUL M]

Jake the Peg wrote:

Better than horne. Still don't think seymour and holdsworth is a great combo

They would have the skills and kicking game but would lack pace. Plus he could take over kicking duties from Ticks.

bishops finger wrote:

I agree with what your saying, once a team gets a roll on these days its virtually impossible to stop, the quick play the ball seems to bring out the worst in refs lol. You mentioned our game with warrington, that was the same when we got a roll on, they gave penalty after penalty away trying to stop us, one things for sure though, we can't keep giving top sides these big leads as like last night we can't always come back.

Although I used a couple of rovers games as examples, it's SL wide. Take salford v wire last night, wakey V Hull the other week and numerous others this season. Can't really remember it being so apparant in previous seasons and think maybe the reduced interchanges and resulting fatigue could be a factor.

[quote="Jake the Peg"]You forgot to copy and paste the bit where the ref gave saints the game in the end. Just another deluded rovers fan who is convinced they're a whisker away from putting together 80 minute performances on a consistent basis.

Face it, teams get miles in front of rovers and mentally switch off. Fair play to rovers for taking advantage on occassion but don't fool yourself it's anything other than that and rovers getting a high % of posessi[/del

Haha, if teams are daft enough to turn off Jake, that's there problem, ours too I guess as we must have turned off against Saints at home, Bradford and Cas, and had Warrington, Saints and of course yourselfs apparently turn off against us.
Maybe turning off in games is a trend too.

Easty wrote:

Saints had no right to score these tries and we shouldn't have gone 26-0 down.

In the event of Rovers players making mistake on mistake on mistake, I'd say Saints had absolutely every right to score tries. What do you expect them to do, pat Latus on the back and give him the ball in a "hard luck old chap, we've "no right" to score off your feck-up" sort of way?

I know it must hurt to be out of the 8 again and that your nerves were shot last night, but aren't all your remaining games at home, or something?

Favourite image from last night, apart from the Rovers fans berated on Twitter for taking their tops off to expose collective pale premature celebratory flab, was Hudge at Ferrybridge sat outside on a bench eating his tea while the bus re-fuelled. Hilarious.

cant help feeling all these comebacks,and high basket ball type scores are down to the forgotten art of tackling!!

PAUL M wrote:

They would have the skills and kicking game but would lack pace. Plus he could take over kicking duties from Ticks.

I like Holdsworth, he's not flashy but would provide a good link, good support player too.

bishops finger wrote:

Haha, if teams are daft enough to turn off Jake, that's there problem, ours too I guess as we must have turned off against Saints at home, Bradford and Cas, and had Warrington, Saints and of course yourselfs apparently turn off against us.
Maybe turning off in games is a trend too.

That's pretty much my point. Fans run around saying how great they'll be once the team string together the perfect 80 minutes when it's impossible. The great sides keep concentration and don't throw games away

O/T what a result for Bradford, I don't think many teams will go to Wigan and win this season.